Welcome to the Nothing is Wasted Podcast, conversations designed to help you as you live, learn and lead through pain.

And now the host of the Nothing Is Wasted podcast, Davy Blackburn.

Hello and welcome to the Nothing is Wasted podcast. My name is Davy Blackburn.

I'm your host and joining me Mel McIsaac, our co-host. Mel it's good to see you.

Good to see you too, Davy, glad to be here.

Mel, we are continuing part two in our conversation with Jeff and McKinsey Rollins,

and what an amazing part one that interview was.

Wow, wow, I'm excited about diving back in, but. part one of the

of the things they talk about their interview is they talk about in their

interview is they talk about the importance of community

especially as you're walking through some kind of a tragedy or trial.

And they have just unbelievable storytelling and descriptors of the community that surrounded

them, their church family, their church community, and it's such an important

aspect of walking through trial.

I mean, I've heard it said before that God will heal you, you know, 80% of the way,

but the last 20% has to be through community.

You have to be through other people.

That he uses people to heal you through this process.

I imagine you probably as a pastor, you have the pastor's family,

you've got some stories of how people have surrounded you as well

through tough times.

Yeah, I can testify to that for sure. I mean. people have surrounded you as well through tough times.

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