Episode 55: Emergency Episode: Mark Joseph Stern on Executive Action
In Bed With The Right
Adrian Daub and Moira Donegan
4.8 • 662 Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump is issuing executive orders faster than people seem to be able to metabolize what's happening. And many of them have to do with gender, sexuality and wokeness! So Moira and Adrian turn to an expert -- Slate.com's intrepid legal reporter Mark Joseph Stern -- to make sense of at least some of the ones we know about in this special emergency episode. Check out Mark's article on the bizarre (and since possibly rescinded) "spending freeze" at Slate here, Adrian's run-down of the EO on gender affirming care here, and Moira's more hopeful note on the opposition all this will run into here.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Adrienne Dobb. |
| 0:16.4 | And I'm Weirond again. |
| 0:17.6 | Whether we like it or not, we're in bed with the right. |
| 0:20.0 | So, Adrian, we are coming to our listeners today nine days into the second Trump administration. We're recording on Wednesday the 29th, which is important because by the time this comes out, what we're saying here will probably already be out of date. There have been a whole flurry of |
| 0:39.5 | executive orders coming out of the new Trump administration, many of them touching on our beat, |
| 0:45.5 | you know, gender, identity, inclusivity, the way these things are constructed by and limited by |
| 0:53.6 | citizenship, right? |
| 0:54.9 | So we thought we wanted to have somebody on the show who could sort of hold our hands and walk us through this new emerging legal landscape. |
| 1:06.9 | And I'm so glad that we got a hold of Mark Joseph Stern, the intrepid legal reporter at Slate, |
| 1:13.6 | one of the smartest and most principled and insightful legal writers working for my money, |
| 1:20.8 | and also a really sweet guy. So Mark, thank you so much for being with us here today. |
| 1:25.6 | Thank you so much for having me on and for those kind words. I am truly delighted to be here, even though we'll be talking about so much for being with us here today. Thank you so much for having me on and for those |
| 1:27.6 | kind words. I am truly delighted to be here, even though we'll be talking about so many awful things. |
| 1:33.1 | Yeah, I do wish it was under better circumstances. Yeah, and I guess so many is already giving us |
| 1:37.5 | the first keyword. We're going to have to narrow things down. This is basically the first few weeks |
| 1:41.5 | of any Trump term at this point are essentially decorative |
| 1:45.3 | gourd season for the very niche slice of person currently comprising like 100% of this podcast, |
| 1:50.6 | which is queer people who like constitutional rights. It's just there's like there's a lot to pick |
| 1:56.5 | from. There's basically a new outrage that of down the pike every 20 minutes. |
| 2:02.5 | And, you know, we're already, we've planned to talk about a thing that has already been rescinded, |
| 2:07.3 | like an hour ago. |
| 2:08.2 | So one thing that I think we should probably do at the beginning is to kind of just delimit |
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