In this episode of Startups for the rest of us, Mike and I talk about all things startup.

This is Startup for the Rest of Us, episode 543.

Welcome to Starts for the Rest of Us, the podcast that helps developers, designers, and entrepreneurs be awesome of building, launching, and growing startups.

Whether you've built your fifth startup or you're thinking about your first.

I'm Rob.

And I'm Mike.

And we're here to share our experiences to help you avoid the mistakes we've made.

So where this week, sir?

Oh, not much.

Hanging in there. Just catching up on some TV these days and we're trying to relax a little bit in between

various things that are going on.

I've been watching.

Have you heard about a show called For All Mankind?

You know, I've heard about it on, I think on a couple of nerd podcasts I listen to,

but I don't remember what it's about.

It's pretty cool. So have you heard of Man in the High Castle where it's kind of like an alternate history?

Yeah, I watched the first season of that, yeah.

So it's similar in that it's about the space race between the United States and the Soviet Union.

And the main difference is that like in the very first episode, what they do is they have the Soviets end up getting to the moon first.

So the entire rest of the show, there's a lot of historically accurate things in there,

but then they obviously take, you know, extreme creative liberty with a bunch of different

historical facts or pieces of things that happened. And it's just, it's fascinating how they

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