Episode 541: Jon McNeill: Why “Less” and “Simple” are the Smartest Growth Strategies
Habits and Hustle
Jen Cohen
4.5 • 818 Ratings
🗓️ 31 March 2026
⏱️ 87 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it. |
| 0:07.7 | Guys, this guy is his name is John McNeil. He wrote a new book called The Algorithm. And this guy's |
| 0:13.2 | resume will blow your mind. Okay? Like, you were the president of SpaceX. Tesla. Tesla. |
| 0:20.8 | But you were also at SpaceX. I was at SpaceX every Friday because that's where our design center is down in Hartford. Oh, so you didn't work. Okay, so it says here, even on the title of the book, I'm going to read your bio. Normally I don't. Normally I do a, I read the bio afterwards, and then I input it. But let's just do this together, shall we? Okay. Let's see here. |
| 0:40.7 | The CEO and co-founder of, well, your new company is called DVX Ventures, former president of Tesla, |
| 0:47.2 | and CEO of C.O.O of Lyft and current board member of GM, Little Lemon, CrossFit, and Stash, |
| 0:53.6 | and a company called Assyrian. Assyrian. Yeah. But also, that's just like the little bit of it. You were also a consultant at Bain. Yeah. You exited your own six companies. You had six companies that you already exited. Yeah. This is just like icing on the cake. like being Elon Musk's number two was just like, oh yeah, and by the way, that's also what I do. Like your resume, and I will give it better service, it will be in the intro better, is insanely impressive. Yeah, I feel like the forest gop of business. Like I've been able to like cobble this together. |
| 1:27.7 | It's been pretty fun. |
| 1:28.1 | Really though? |
| 1:28.8 | I mean, okay, so let's start with the beginning because if you're at Bain, we're at McKinsey also? No, just Bain. Okay, just Bain. Like, they're not picking dummies. So like you obviously had like pretty, a great pedigree even to get chosen to be at Bain. So what was your like academic background? |
| 1:45.5 | I had to bake my way into Bain. So what was your like academic background? |
| 1:45.5 | I had to beg my way into Bain because I was a, I went to a Big Ten school. |
| 1:49.3 | You went northwestern. Yeah. They hadn't hired non-Ivey League kids before. And so I literally had to |
| 1:55.5 | beg my way into Bain. Really? Okay. Myself and two other two other guys, we were the first |
| 2:00.3 | non-Ivies hired at Bain. Well, that even says something already. Like if you had to beg your way or they took only two non-Ivey leagues, what would make you special enough that they picked you? I think it was, I worked my way through college, and I went school in Chicago, and I worked at the Board of Trade. Okay. And I was doing these crazy trading algorithms. I was coding in college. And I think that story got me in because they were like, ooh, this kid's been moving like $10 or $20 million around per trade. He must not be a dummy. Right. So that's what got me in. Yeah. And so then you're at Bain. Yeah. And then what I also found super interesting about your story |
| 2:35.6 | was that usually people who are working at the consultancy, like as consultants, they're not |
| 2:40.3 | entrepreneurs themselves, right? But they saw something in you that they thought, hey, you should |
| 2:45.9 | be an entrepreneur. You should get the hell out of here, basically. I don't know what was in the |
| 2:49.5 | water at Bain at that point, but they were hiring a bunch of |
| 2:52.7 | entrepreneurs, and they were kind of entrepreneurs themselves. So they started this venture capital |
| 2:55.7 | firm because they were so entrepreneurial. And you know the name of like one of the people |
| 2:59.7 | that founded the venture capital firm, Mitt Romney, founded this thing. So out of the 72 kids I was |
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