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🗓️ 28 August 2019
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0:00.0 | Spectrevision Radio |
0:02.0 | Welcome to Weird Studies, an arts and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martel. |
0:23.3 | For more episodes or to support the podcast, go to weird'm J.F. Martel. Today we discuss the essay, The Pianist and the Lobster, |
0:57.1 | by the American documentary filmmaker, author, and philosopher, Errol Morris. Phil and I do a decent |
1:04.4 | job of summarizing the essay in the course of our conversation, so you should be able to follow |
1:09.4 | without reading it. But it's a fascinating |
1:11.4 | read, so we recommend you check it out on the New York Times website. One word that comes up in our chat, |
1:18.5 | but doesn't in the essay, is panpsychism. For those who don't know, panpsychism is the belief |
1:23.9 | that consciousness is a property of all things, a fundamental constituent of reality. |
1:29.6 | For the panpsychists, somehow, everything has consciousness, not just animals, but also |
1:35.3 | sunflowers, thermostats, nebulas, beach pebbles, and to yodas. It isn't so much that these |
1:41.0 | things can think and feel as we do, but that what we call thought |
1:45.4 | and feeling is already present, in an alien form, perhaps, in all those things. |
1:51.4 | The Greeks were big on panpsychism. |
1:53.9 | Pythagoras maintained the quote, all things feel, and the philosopher Thales famously said, |
1:59.8 | All things are full of gods. |
2:02.2 | That such a seemingly bizarre idea could gain currency in the modern world, as it seems to be doing even among academic philosophers today, is another surprising twist in this age full of surprising twists. |
2:15.9 | It's certainly an idea that Phil and I take seriously, as |
2:19.0 | regular listeners will know. And it's something Errol Morris, it turns out, also seems to take |
2:24.8 | seriously. In his piece, Morris argues that the mental acts we moderns have tethered to the human |
2:31.0 | mind, creativity, expression, intention, meaning, and so on, are always |
2:36.8 | already tangled in webs that involve non-human things, which, for their part, have a share in the agency |
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