Episode 54: Hannah Graf
Spinning Plates with Sophie Ellis-Bextor
Kat Rulach
4.8 • 527 Ratings
🗓️ 31 January 2022
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
Hannah Graf is a transgender campaigner and mum to 21 month old Millie. Hannah came out as a trans woman in 2013, while serving in the British army, and met trangender Jake in 2015. When they married in 2018 they became the highest-profile transgender couple in the UK. I recommend watching the excellent Channel 4 documentary about their journey to parenthood 'Our Baby: A Modern Miracle'
Hannah spoke to me about her wonderfully supportive parents, her deep feelings of gratitude to the surrogate mum Laura who made parenthood possible for Hannah and Jake, and the joy of watching her little girl's character emerge. We also talked about her love of watching Wales play rugby, but I'm yet to be convinced!
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Sophia Lysbexter and welcome to Spinning Plates, the podcast where I speak to |
| 0:09.6 | to busy working women who also happen to be mothers about how they make it work. |
| 0:14.4 | I'm a singer and I've released seven albums in between having my five sons aged 16 months to 16 years, |
| 0:20.4 | so I spin a few plates myself. |
| 0:21.6 | Being a mother can be the most amazing thing but can also be hard to find time for |
| 0:26.3 | yourself and your own ambitions. I want to be a bit nosy and see how other people |
| 0:30.5 | balance everything. Welcome to spinning plates. Hello I'm feeling a bit secretive as I record this because I'm walking home from dropping the kids at school. |
| 0:45.3 | Basically, I don't really want people to think I'm being a bit of a wally recording something on my own. |
| 0:53.1 | So I'm trying to look as if I'm just having a phone call |
| 0:56.0 | rather than |
| 0:58.0 | talking to, I suppose, essentially, for the time being myself. |
| 1:06.0 | And I'm not sure I'm pulling that off, really. |
| 1:10.0 | It's, what time is it? |
| 1:12.6 | 9.4. |
| 1:14.6 | And it's actually not that cold today, which is good. |
| 1:17.6 | And it's one of those mornings where the light is still really sleepy time grey, |
| 1:24.6 | which always to me makes it look like the day hasn't quite woken up yet, |
| 1:28.9 | which is a bit annoying. Wake up day. Come on. Get a move on. I'm up. You have to be up. |
| 1:35.8 | But anyway, it's not very cold. So that's a bonus. So I can do this without gloves. |
| 1:42.5 | Woo-hoo. |
| 1:50.1 | And so we've had some nice news this week that we've been able to share, which is that last year, Richard and I, we put together a cookbook. |
| 1:56.2 | Now, that is something I tried to instigate about five years ago because we've always loved food |
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