I'm Molly and I'm Matthew and this is spilled milk the show where we cook something delicious

eat it all and and sometimes record in our closets today we are talking about caucho

a pepe did I say it right I think I mean you said it like as well or better than I do

so I think we're both doing it badly but I think I think I like separated the words much

more than they would be separated in Italian maybe got joy pepe yeah I think that's probably

it nailed it all of my like various repertoire of characters that I I can do for my family

all at a certain point become Italian sure like yeah can you do can you do like Jack Nicholson

but Italian well not on purpose he just becomes Italian anyway okay so yeah today we are

talking about catch a pepe and we should start by defining this right let's start by defining

it I mean I think our listeners know what this is the dish is very trendy slash was recently

very trendy when does something stop being trendy and does someone come along and like ring

a bell and say like here lies catch a pepe yeah it's a very long ceremony yet they bury

some pasta there's there's a back to a spaghetti trick yeah for sure yeah like you know

just in the Italian tradition there's a there's a bagpipe player yep anyway so okay so this is a

pasta dish it is typically Roman it has been made in Rome in the area of Rome actually for not

as long as you might think and we'll get to that in a second oh so maybe like since like 2013

it consists of so the pasta you use is either spaghetti or tonneurally tonneurally being a long

noodle but that is square in cross-section rather than circular two questions yeah number one

what is spaghetti number two is tonneurally different from spaghetti alla chitara oh my gosh okay if

you're in the Wikipedia entry for catch a pepe and you click on tonneurally it takes you to the

chitara oh I feel so smart okay anyway no I didn't do that this is like right all right off the

dome here anyway so yeah it's it's one of those two long skinny noodles and it is sauce I'm making

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