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And I'm super duper excited because I'm always excited when we have a new guest on the pod, but I'm

also really excited slash scared.

In the words of Severn's the number scared me.

I don't like the way the secret lives of Mormon wise made me feel, but I felt like I would

enjoy myself more if I was talking to it with,

I feel like a pop culture analyst, a sociologist who does amazing workover memes.

You might know her as T. Waters on threads and on Instagram.

It's Trina Waters.

Hi, Trina.

I'm so excited to talk to you.

Hi. I'm so excited. This is my first podcast. Oh my God. Yay. How exciting. Shouldn't have started with that, but I had to. I had to

get the disclaimer. It's, it's going to be a Yap Fest. These women give us so much content to talk about.

My God. I'm just so excited to have you on because you guys have seen her memes. They've either on her own page or they were stolen because that's what happens on the internet mostly. And so I'm excited to talk about the Mormon wives. But before I do, I always ask first time guests about their relationship with reality TV.

But specifically, you know, reality TV, we all recognize in the year 2025 quite toxic.

Who is your problematic favorite on first we'll talk about this on the show itself and then just in general if you have an all star.

Yeah, I do. I mean, too many to choose from on the one show, but on more, I have to say I loved Whitney the second season.

I think she bounced back. I think she had one of those first season where she went in so hard and just and quick.

And then she kind of just bounced back a little.

So I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I think she has a lot to give in this terms of reality TV because she's not afraid to do anything.

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