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Episode 525 Promo - Is Winning The Point of Everything? w/ (Osita Nwanevu)

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4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Contributing editor at The New Republic and author of new book The Right of the People: Democracy and the Case for a New American Founding Osita Nwanevu joins Briahna to discuss the state of U.S. democracy, the failures of the Democratic Party as a resistance party, avenues for genuine resistance (e.g. packing the court, nixing the filibuster, D.C. statehood) that the Democrats have so far failed to avail themselves of, and whether Zohran Mamdani's victory changes anything about Briahna's cynicism. Is the goal winning at any cost? Are there things more important than winning elections, like the way Mamdani changed public opinion on the right of Israel to exist as an apartheid state? Is the left making a mistake in over investing in electoral victories? Or are those who criticize the left for not actually wanting power right?

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

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0:00.0

I'm not trying to throw him away prematurely at all.

0:02.2

Right.

0:03.0

But there's a world where that article comes out and he clarifies this position that,

0:06.4

of course I'm a socialist and this is why you should be too.

0:09.0

And I can say that because I'm winning and I got to this winning position,

0:12.4

being loud and proud about who I am, not saying, oh, actually, the NYPD isn't racist.

0:19.4

Right.

0:20.2

I apologize for saying as much.

0:22.6

Right.

0:23.6

Well, the thing is, Jordan is about to be mayor.

0:26.6

So again, like, returning to this question of why is that the Democratic Party is not doing the things that

0:33.6

most constituents believe as a matter of policy?

0:36.6

Why is not doing things

0:37.7

that most Americans support when it comes to health care, environmental policy, gun policy? Why is not

0:42.8

actually doing the things that would take as a matter of political reform to achieve those things?

0:46.9

I think that's because they have the wrong people in Democratic elected seats. And so the

0:52.8

question is, how do you actually get more people on our side

0:56.5

of things elected as Democrats? That's the question. That is the question. And I think that Zorn offers

1:03.5

one way. And I think, again, if Bernie Sanders had had a political approach that got him majority of

1:08.6

Democratic primary voters in the races he ran,

1:12.6

he'd be in a position, he might be president now, he might be, certainly be it in the very

1:16.7

least, the position to change the party's disposition and that look on a lot of different

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