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Episode 523 Promo - We're All Terrorists Now (w/ Ken Klippenstein)

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4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Independent journalist Ken Klippenstein joins Bad Faith to discuss Trump's dystopian national security memorandum broadly targeting activists, nonprofits, and critics of capitalism as terrorists, how Charlie Kirk's murder has been used to expand authoritarian overreach, and the Democrats' continuing gerentocracy problem.

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Produced by Armand Aviram.

Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

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0:00.0

I'm reflecting on the fact that in the last few days, Stephen Miller's wife got into it with

0:05.8

Jank Yugar on Pierce Morgan and melt it down and threatened to get him deported because he was

0:13.9

winning the argument against her.

0:16.6

Yeah.

0:17.2

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

0:19.8

So what happened in the Holocaust and all the pogroms were disgusting.

0:25.6

That doesn't mean that is.

0:26.6

Everyone's making fun of that and she seems like a cry baby snowflake and it is what it is.

0:31.6

But when you have a background of a government that really is trying to criminalize having a difference of opinion with the administration,

0:39.0

those kind of threats feel very dangerous. Yeah, no question. And they're completely willing,

0:44.8

I mean, if you look at some of the cases they're making again, I mentioned earlier in this interview,

0:49.1

the number of cases that juries are refusing to indict, you know, the saying you can indict a ham sandwich,

0:53.9

it is really easy to get an indictment. The fact that they're not getting it, not only is embarrassing, but it's alarming, that they're running with these cases that just collapsed before they've even reached trial. It's really crazy. I can't think of a precedent. I mean, this would happen occasionally, but the regularity with which it's happening, I can't think of a precedent for that. So they're fully willing to take advantage of the powers that exist. And if someone says, well, these cases aren't going anywhere, it's still an incredible harassment. I mean, yeah, exactly. Thank you. This is such an important point. You get all these legal big brains that are like, oh, this is unconstitutional. the Supreme Court will throw it out, or why would a jury, blah, blah, blah. But it's kind of like,

1:30.7

okay, get out of the classroom and think about this for a second. You've been arrested and interrogated

1:35.4

as anti-ice protesters in, you know, I mentioned the Broadview Ice Facility in Chicago, have been,

1:40.8

for an entire day. Most people can't take a day off work to say nothing of the psychological

1:45.6

just being interrogated by these ICE investigators and having to go through a federal prison.

1:51.4

That's no fun. And then having your name splashed across the homepage of the Department of Homeland Security next to the word terrorist.

1:58.7

Right. Nobody's going to want to. I interviewed a guy that got a visit by the FBI in, where was it, Arizona,

2:05.3

after he went to an anti-I protest, never charged with any crime.

2:09.3

And then I asked him, so what effect is ahead?

2:11.3

He said, well, I wanted to go to the No King's protest.

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