Episode #52: Inside NSA, Part I--A Discusison with General Counsel Rajesh De
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🗓️ 16 December 2013
⏱️ 56 minutes
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The first episode in our series, "Inside NSA: We Brought in a Recording Device So You Don't Have To": An interview with NSA General Counsel Rajesh De.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair |
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| 0:25.6 | no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:30.0 | It's particularly frustrating as the lawyer here to see articles that have an explosive |
| 0:39.3 | headline and then in paragraph one, two or three we'll say NSA has positioned itself to |
| 0:45.7 | collect on millions Americans or NSA collects on vast amount of Americans and you read through |
| 0:51.6 | the article and you keep going down and somewhere around paragraph 19, 20, 21, 22 there'll |
| 0:57.8 | be a statement that says it's unclear how many Americans communications may be caught |
| 1:02.1 | up in this particular program I've been discussing in this entire article and that it seems |
| 1:07.4 | to me is particularly unfortunate and irresponsible at some level and I would ask that folks |
| 1:12.9 | when they read these articles to read them with the same rigor that they're reading statements |
| 1:16.3 | by government officials. |
| 1:18.6 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast, special edition part one inside NSA. |
| 1:26.8 | We brought in a recording device so you don't have to. |
| 1:31.4 | Yes, Bobby Chesney and I got an electronic digital recorder into the super secret spy |
| 1:36.9 | agencies main building at Fort Mead and just like Edward Snowden, we ex-fil-traded gigabites |
| 1:44.1 | of data on it. |
| 1:46.0 | In our case, however, the data was in the form of podcast interviews with NSA's senior |
| 1:50.8 | leadership. |
| 1:52.1 | The interviews were all authorized and the data is unclassified. |
| 1:57.1 | Our first guest was Rajesh Day, the agency's general counsel. |
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