Episode 517: Tania Khazaal: Building Emotional Resilience Through Discipline, Discomfort and Accountability

Habits and Hustle

Jen Cohen

Education, Self-improvement, Business, Entrepreneurship, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Cutting off family and chronic therapy have become normalized, yet people feel more disconnected than ever. What’s labeled as healing often rewards avoidance and quietly erodes emotional resilience. We dive deeper into this in the latest Habits & Hustle with Tania Khazaal. We also chat about why therapy can keep people stuck instead of healing, how “protecting your peace” often protects pain, and why most people quit in the valley of despair right before real growth begins. Tania Khazaal is an emotional healing expert with a background in herbal practice and extensive study in psychology, neuroscience, human behavior, and communication. Her work centers on emotional resilience, relational repair, and the mind body connection. What We Discuss: (05:24) Why family estrangement is rising (06:27) How therapy culture can keep people stuck (08:24) When “protecting your peace” becomes avoidance (14:06) Triggers vs personal responsibility (23:03) Emotional suppression and physical health (36:54) Gentle parenting, discipline, and resilience (39:17) How emotional growth affects health, relationships, and performance (44:37) The valley of despair and why people quit( 49:12) Discipline and future pacing over motivation Thank you to our sponsors: Prolon: Get 30% off sitewide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Program! Just visit https://prolonlife.com/JENNIFERCOHEN and use code JENNIFERCOHEN to claim your discount and your bonus gift. Therasage: Head over to therasage.com and use code Be Bold for 15% off Air Doctor: Go to airdoctorpro.com and use promo code HUSTLE40 for up to $300 off and a 3-year warranty on air purifiers. Magic Mind: Head over to www.magicmind.com/jen and use code Jen at checkout. Momentous: Shop this link and use code Jen for 20% off Manna Vitality: Visit mannavitality.com and use code JENNIFER20 for 20% off your order Amp fit is the perfect balance of tech and training, designed for people who do it all and still want to feel strong doing it. Check it out at joinamp.com/jen Find more from Jen: Website: www.jennifercohen.com Instagram: @therealjencohen Books: www.jennifercohen.com/books Speaking: www.jennifercohen.com/speaking-engagement Find more from Tania Khazaal: Website: www.taniakhazaal.com Instagram: @taniakhazaal Facebook: @taniatheherbalistofficial Youtube: @taniakhazaal

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0:00.0	Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it.
0:07.2	All right, you guys. Welcome to Habits and Hustle. We have a special guest. She's Canadian. So automatically, you know, I love her. Her name is Tanya Cazal. That's right. That's right. All right. And she is an emotional healing expert. I've found her on
0:23.7	Instagram, one of your reels, one of her reels just like popped up. And she was so articulate.
0:29.5	I loved what she was saying. And it was also very unusual content, which we're going to get into.
0:35.2	We're going to talk all about estrangement from families.
0:38.9	It's a huge epidemic now. One in four families are estranged from each other in the family.
0:44.9	I can't believe that number. It's a scary number. It's unbelievable. Right, especially in the last, I'd say, seven to ten years especially.
0:52.5	That, in the last seven to 10 years.
0:54.4	It's been growing.
0:55.2	Is it because of the, I guess, the rise of gentle parenting and caudal culture and how,
1:03.1	how we parent and how we kind of grow up in today's culture is very different.
1:08.6	So our kids becoming more estranged to their parent.
1:12.0	Like, tell me what's going on. So I think there's a lot that fed into this. It's that tied in
1:16.5	with the rise in therapy as well. There's a perfect correlation between the reduction of mental health,
1:23.2	the rise of mental health issues and the rise of therapy. It goes hand in hand.
1:27.8	And I think that I talk, if you want to know the history, this has been happening for a while,
1:31.2	is because in the 70s, Carl Rogers introduced like the kind of the personal first kind of
1:37.5	therapy where it was like, my feelings are facts.
1:39.9	And it now turned into whatever I feel is real.
1:43.2	And it's the truth. And that started to bleed
1:46.9	into the culture of the 80s and 90s where you've got the operas and the doctor fills that really
1:52.5	pushed toxic parent books, boundaries protecting your peace. And then it slowly led into,
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