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🗓️ 9 October 2025
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Van Lathan Jr., who went viral for confronting Kanye West over his "Black people chose slavery" remarks on TMZ, is a culture savant, podcaster, and political commentator whom you might have recently seen giving Scott Jennings the business on CNN. He joins Bad Faith to discuss Paul Thomas Anderson's One Battle After Another, which is being heralded as one of the best films of the year. But while it's being read as positive depiction of left revolutionaries, Brie has never felt a bigger urge to walk out of a theatre than she did in the first 30 minutes of this movie. Is the film a misogynoir-filled anti-left psyop? A fun action caper? Both? But first, Van and Brie discuss the spate of right-leaning podcasters expressing regret about boosting Trump, what it means to have "a politics," and how to contend with the establishment's commitment to "voting blue no matter who" and blaming third parties for the Democrats' failures.
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| 0:00.0 | How many people felt something that I said today? |
| 0:03.0 | Raise a hand if you felt something that I said today. |
| 0:09.0 | Do you feel that I'm feeling, dude, do you feel that I'm being free and I'm thinking free? |
| 0:14.0 | Yes. |
| 0:17.0 | I actually don't think you're thinking anything. |
| 0:20.0 | I think what you're doing right now is actually the absence of thought. |
| 0:24.4 | And the reason why I feel like that, because Kanye, you're entitled to your opinion. |
| 0:29.0 | You're entitled to believe whatever you want. |
| 0:30.6 | But there is fact and real world, real life consequence behind everything that you just said. |
| 0:38.3 | And while you are making music and being an artist and living a life that you've earned |
| 0:43.9 | by being a genius, the rest of us in society have to deal with these threats to our lives. |
| 0:49.7 | We have to deal with the marginalization that has come from the 400 years of slavery that you said for our |
| 0:56.2 | people was a choice. |
| 0:58.7 | Every day we have to walk into that truth while you choose to say things that, to be honest |
| 1:03.9 | with you, dog, are nonsensical. |
| 1:06.1 | You want to think freely? |
| 1:08.0 | That's fine. |
| 1:09.0 | I'll come back your free thought with my free thought because mine is |
| 1:12.5 | grounded in a reality that I have been giving and a reality that I'm going to change, but I'm not |
| 1:18.2 | going to do it by pretending that the enemies are on the same team as me. And frankly, I'm disappointed. |
| 1:26.0 | I'm appalled. And brother, I am unbelievably hurt by the fact that you have morphed into something to me that's not real. |
| 1:36.0 | That's the way I feel. |
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