Can you put this in perspective for us?

Because on one hand, Democrats could say they're getting something done, but at the same time, the immigration crackdown isn't going to slow.

It's not going to slow. I think the best thing that they can claim is that it's a symbolic victory.

But the symbolism is important here.

And I think it's worth pulling back a little bit and thinking about how dramatically the politics around the

Department of Homeland Security have changed. You know, this is a department that was formed after

9-11 to stop terrorist attacks, to keep the country safe, right? And it has had periods of

controversy throughout its history, but the mission was always pretty straightforward and

pretty broadly supported, so much so that for a long time, Democrats were afraid of being seen

as on the wrong side of its mission, right? They didn't want to be seen as soft on terror.

They were supportive of DHS. What's changed is that under Trump, he has pretty dramatically reoriented the mission of DHS.

He's pulled resources away from terrorism to focus on hitting Stephen Miller's deportation quotas.

And in the process has made it much more controversial.

You know, approval ratings have dropped dramatically.

And the irony, Stephanie, in all of this, is that even Republicans who like what they see in terms of DHS spending more time on immigration feel like it's being badly mismanaged.

They are not supportive of Christy Nome.

You know, you talk to them on Capitol Hill, you talk to them in Washington.

They will say that it's been a disaster that she's turned the department into a vehicle for the advancing of her own political celebrity.

And they're not happy with it either.

So the department has lost support on all sides.

And that's what's enabled Democrats to pick this fight

and see it as a winner. This is some encouraging news on the cost of living, right? Inflation

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