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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 514: David Ostler, Principles for Families to Remain Strong When One Leaves the Church

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2022

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

My brother and friend David Ostler; Author of Bridges: Ministering to Those Who Question which is available at Deseret Book (https://deseretbook.com/p/bridges-ministering-to-those-who-question?variant_id=181882-paperback) and Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/158958726X); join us to talk about a new chapter in his book. This new chapter discusses how marriages can stay together—and even thrive—when one spouse chooses to step away from the Church. The gospel bases principals in this chapter also apply when an adult child steps away from the Church. This chapter is free to download at bridgeslds.com and will be included in a future edition of his book. There is also a free guide to download at this site to help leaders talk in the councils and presidencies about how to minister to those who question. We all have people in our lives who have stepped away from the Church. David’s book and new chapter help us keep the family circle together and preserve the relationship—even with people we love not participating in the Church. David’s book also helps us better understand the reasons who someone leaves the Church—perhaps understanding these reasons (and discussing this at Church and in our families) helps some stay as we develop better ministering tools. David’s research points out that most in a faith transition do want to find a way to authentically stay in the Church. David also talks about “Circles” and how this program helps develop better communication tools to have meaningful discussions with those who believe differently. David has led over 20 of these Circles and I encourage you to check this out and possible participate (via Zoom). You can learn more at bridgeslds.com Thank you, my good brother for your efforts to “heal our divide” and create Zion.

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:10.5

My guest on today's podcast, joining me from his home in Virginia is my brother, David Osler.

0:18.3

Welcome to the podcast, Dave.

0:20.6

Thanks. It's good to be here, Richard.

0:23.2

Or I call you Dick, because that's what your family members call you. You can call me that.

0:27.4

It's true listeners. I have been known by the name of Dick for most of my life. And lots of people

0:33.3

still call me that. And both names are fine as well Papa Osser. In fact, for a marketing guy,

0:39.4

I haven't done a good job of being consistent on my first name. So a lot of people are confused

0:43.1

what to call me, but all of those work. David has been on the podcast to a prior times, episode 17

0:52.8

and episode 167.

0:55.4

And we're going to talk about his book.

0:57.5

We talked about it in episode 167.

0:59.8

It's called Bridges, Ministering to Those Who Question.

1:04.3

It was published by Coffered Books.

1:06.3

It's available at Desert Book.

1:09.2

And I sometimes look at an Amazon bookmark I have that has the top 100 LDS books as far

1:17.4

as Amazon sells.

1:18.6

And your book is often in the top 50 or 100.

1:22.0

And I just recognize your book is kind of timeless.

1:25.7

And David's going to talk about a new chapter in his book. His book has

1:29.0

10 chapters. He's written an 11th chapter. And in the show notes, you can download the 11th chapter

1:35.6

for free. And we're going to talk about that chapter. So is that okay for an introduction?

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