Episode 51 - What is Your Therapist Thinking?
This Jungian Life Podcast
Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano
4.7 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 21 March 2019
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
Lisa, Joseph, and Deb explore and explain what the analytic process is like for them as they work with clients. Deb describes her interactions with clients using a rectangular diagram that, like the Scottish flag, traces lines going from the two upper corners to the two lower corners. This represents the multi-directional flow of energy in the session between the conscious and unconscious contents of both people. The analytic process is also likened to a chemical reaction in which both people are changed - referencing alchemical images that Jung used, it’s compared to two people sitting in a bath together. These are all ways of illustrating that the process of analytic therapy is as important to the analyst as it is to the client.
The Dream: I was sitting on the steps of a big old brick building in a small town. It seemed like a quaint old fashioned town. The day was warm and sunny. I was upset about something and my therapist was standing in front of me. I can't remember what I was telling her, but as she stood in front of me, she kept removing her shirt and throwing it on the ground. She never picked it up and put it back on, she just had so many shirts on. Over and over, removing one shirt and tossing it aside.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this Jungian life. |
| 0:03.0 | Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee, |
| 0:09.0 | invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day. |
| 0:17.0 | I'm Lisa Marciano and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. |
| 0:22.0 | I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. |
| 0:27.0 | I'm Deborah Stewart, a youngian analyst on Cape Cod. |
| 0:31.0 | On today's episode we wanted to address the requests that have come to us from many |
| 0:38.2 | listeners that we talk a little bit more about what the process of analysis is like from the standpoint of the analyst. |
| 0:47.0 | So many of you have written in and mentioned that you wanted to hear us talk about aspects of working as an analyst and we thought we'd jump right into that topic today by discussing what your analyst is thinking. |
| 1:02.0 | Wow, that is a really big topic. |
| 1:05.0 | That's all those many years of our training condensed into one episode. |
| 1:10.0 | We'll do our best. |
| 1:12.0 | It is probably one of the most complicated parts of training, |
| 1:17.0 | and it's also present in many other schools of therapy |
| 1:20.0 | under the category of the use of self, |
| 1:22.0 | that the analyst is the primary medicine in the therapeutic |
| 1:30.6 | process. Another way of saying it is a lot of research has been done around efficacy in the |
| 1:38.2 | therapeutic process and the relationship between the analyst and the analysis and |
| 1:46.0 | seems to be the primary determiner of that outcome. |
| 1:51.0 | And what's happening in the analyst is essential in this relationship |
| 1:55.0 | between the two people in the venture. |
| 1:58.0 | And you know there's a school of psychotherapeutic thought called relational psychotherapy that really focuses on this. |
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