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Start caring for your home with confidence. Download Thumbtack today. What's up everybody? Welcome to episode 51 of the Talking Chalk podcast.

I am Carlos Colazo, your co-host as always.

And back with us this week after skipping out last week is Brad Rowland.

Brad, how's it going, man?

I'm not sure I skipped out last week.

You got a much better, more qualified person to talk with.

And shout out to Kevin McAlpin.

If you missed that podcast, go listen to it.

It was better than what I normally would say.

And Kevin's a smart guy.

But it's nice to be back, man.

It's good to talk some baseball to take my mind off of other sporting things.

So it's nice to be here.

Yeah, Brad, you had a devastating loss as well as the entire city of Atlanta, and really

I feel like most of America was pulling for your Falcons in the Super Bowl there.

I know I was definitely disappointed to see the result of that, but if it's not too early,

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