Episode 507: Dubuque, Demons, & Defying Patriarchy (Part Deux) with Beth Allison Barr
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 4 May 2022
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Summary
In the 1980s, Frank Peretti’s best-selling novels about the spiritual war between angels and demons captivated evangelicals, but they also fostered a belief that anything out of step with conservative white Christianity was downright satanic. The podcast crew discuss their own experiences with Peretti’s books and how they’ve shaped today’s culture war—including a congresswoman’s recent statement that Catholics helping immigrants is proof the church is run by Satan. Then, Beth Allison Barr is back one year after the release of her provocative book “The Making of Biblical Womanhood,” to discuss what she’s learned from her critics as well as from her fans. And she offers pastoral advice for those struggling in patriarchal Christian communities. Plus, a family finds a tasty time capsule in their bathroom wall, and the underappreciated charms of Dubuque, Iowa.
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:24 - Dubuque travelogues
8:10 - Tasty time capsule
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/illinois-family-finds-bag-preserved-mcdonalds-food-half-century-ago-ho-rcna26252
16:49 - Fantasy novels and satanic conspiracies
https://religionnews.com/2022/04/28/marjorie-taylor-greene-feuds-with-conservatives-catholics-over-satan-remarks-border-bishops-satan/https://www.vox.com/culture/23033782/frank-peretti-this-present-darkness-piercing-the-darkness-cultural-influence-moral-panic
46:56 - Patreon bonus plug
https://www.patreon.com/posts/65967806/
Interview with Beth Allison Barr
“The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth” book - https://amzn.to/3KNm8s0Postscript to book - http://cdn.bakerpublishinggroup.com/processed/book-resources/files/The_Making_of_Biblical_Womanhood_-_Postscript_Chapter.pdf?1650389860
47:53 - Intro
48:31 - Journey with book
55:39 - History and theology
58:58 - Untangling cultural elements in scripture
1:03:29 - Hindsight and reflection on critiques
1:12:46 - Role of social media
1:15:59 - Three FAQs
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/anxiousbench/2022/03/ideas-about-women-matter-a-resource-list-for-women-in-church-history/
1:22:17 - Hope?
1:25:09 - Credits
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Episode 507. |
| 0:02.5 | On this week's show, we talk about Frank Peretti's novels from the 1980s about spiritual warfare, |
| 0:08.1 | and how they're still shaping the way many evangelicals think about cultural involvement and politics. |
| 0:13.2 | Then, Beth Allyson Barr is back one year after the release of her provocative book, |
| 0:17.6 | The Making of Biblical Womanhood. |
| 0:19.7 | She discusses what she's learned from her critics as well as from her fans, |
| 0:23.5 | and offers some pastoral advice for those still struggling in patriarchal Christian communities. |
| 0:28.7 | All of that, plus a family finds a tasty time capsule in their bathroom wall, |
| 0:33.3 | and the underappreciated charms of Dubuque Iowa. |
| 0:36.8 | Here is Episode 507. |
| 0:38.8 | Hey there, welcome back to the Holypost podcast. |
| 0:40.8 | I'm Phil Vischer. |
| 0:42.4 | I am here with Christian Taylor, hi Christian. |
| 0:45.7 | Hey Phil. |
| 0:46.8 | And Sky, Jatani. |
| 0:49.6 | Hi. |
| 0:50.4 | Hi Sky. |
| 0:51.6 | Do we need nicknames? |
| 0:53.9 | I have a nickname. |
| 0:55.0 | Like, no, no, no, but this is the one you've used your whole life. |
| 0:58.7 | So it doesn't count anymore. |
| 1:00.0 | No, if you look down at my recording level thing. |
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