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Episode 503: Evan Osnos

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Education, Arts, Books, News

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Evan Osnos is a staff writer for The New Yorker. His new book is Wildland: The Making of America’s Fury. “I'm always trying to get inside a subculture. That's the thing that I think has been the most enduring, attractive element for me. Is there a world that has its own manners and vocabulary and internal rhythms and status structure? And who looks down on whom? And why? And who venerates whom? Who's a big deal in these worlds? And if I can get into that, it doesn't even really matter to me that much what the subculture is. I'm fascinated by trying to map that thing out.” Show notes: @eosnos evanosnos.com Osnos on Longform Osnos’s New Yorker archive 00:00 The Making of America’s Fury (Farrar, Straus and Giroux • 2021) 02:00 "Life After White Collar Crime" (New Yorker • Aug 2021) 03:00 "Doomsday Prep for the Super-Rich" (New Yorker • Jan 2017) 05:00 Osnos’s Chicago Tribune archive 19:00 "The Boxing Rebellion" (New Yorker • Jan 2008) 24:00 "Born Red" (New Yorker • Apr 2015) 34:00 "Wastepaper Queen" (New Yorker • Mar 2009) 38:00 "The Grand Tour" (New Yorker • Apr 2011) 46:00 "Welcome to the United States: The Shutdown Edition" (New Yorker • Oct 2013) 49:00 "The Haves and Have-Yachts" (New Yorker • Jul 2022) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:39.6

Hello and welcome to the Longform Podcast. I'm Aaron Lammer. I'm here with Max Linsky and Evan

0:45.8

Ratliffe. They are my co-hosts. Hello Aaron. It's always great to talk on Friday afternoon at 530.

0:52.8

Ding ding ding. 530. It's fast intro times. I'm just going to tell you about who's on the show this

0:59.6

week. It's Evan Osnos. He is of the New Yorker, was the longtime China correspondent for the New

1:06.5

Yorker wrote some of my favorite pieces ever during that time period. He is back in America now

1:13.6

and wrote a book called Wildland that is about three communities that he has roots in and what

1:21.4

happened in the lead up to the Trump era in America. I know how much he loved his reporting from China.

1:27.9

I'm very excited to hear both his answers but specifically your questions about it because I know

1:32.9

it's the thing you were into. I'll give a specific plug. If you haven't checked out any of his pieces,

1:38.8

there's one about a bus tour of Europe that he took with a group of Chinese tourists. It's in

1:45.9

my personal canon. So check it out then listen to the interview. Highest possible recommendation.

1:51.2

We make this show with Vox. Thanks so much to them. And now here's Aaron with Evan Osnos.

2:05.7

Welcome to the show Evan Osnos. Thanks Aaron. Glad to be here. I've read a lot of your stories over

2:13.2

the years but I went back through a bunch of them while I was preparing for this. And I realized

2:20.4

that some of the stories you've done for the New Yorker that I took as kind of wacky one-offs

2:26.9

like you did a story about the mega yacht industry which is kind of like a good random New Yorker

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