Episode 50: The Big Chill

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2017

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Are your other podcasts letting you down by taking a holiday break? Never fear, National Security Law Podcast is here! With two host who would much rather be podcasting than grading exams, you are assured of an uninterrupted holiday stream of national security legal analysis, not to mention ill-informed takes on...movie soundtracks? Seems your hosts may have been in the eggnog a bit early this year. But nevermind that, let's get to the overview of what Episode 50 has to offer: A postmortem on the mixed verdict in the Abu Khattala (Benghazi) trial in late November: The jury acquitted on the most serious charges, but did convict on others. What will this mean, if anything, for the long-running debate regarding disposition options for terrorism suspects? And why did the trial turn out that way? The Presidential Transition Team emails produced to the Special Counsel by GSA: Beneath the political aspects, what are the constitutional, statutory, or other legal considerations that should inform this story? Still waiting... We've been waiting all year to find out what Congress will do with respect to Section 702 renewal, and it seems we will have to wait just a bit longer, for as of this morning there still was no action. Meanwhile, the same is true about the pending motion for jurisdictional discovery in ACLU v. Mattis. Chances are good both of those will see significant developments in the days ahead, so stay tuned for Episode 51 (which we are likely to record on Wednesday next week). Of course, it wouldn't be the National Security Law Podcast without a discussion of frivolous matters at the end. This week's topic: all-time great movie soundtracks. We heard through the grapevine that this would be a contentious discussion... Happy holidays to all!

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0:00.0	Happy holidays.
0:13.1	No, Bobby.
0:14.0	Is that not the right intro?
0:15.4	No.
0:16.1	We promised no singing.
0:17.7	How about this?
0:18.7	Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 50 of the
0:21.5	National Security Law Podcasts brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.
0:26.1	I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Vladik. I will not sing on this episode. I'll put you to the test on
0:31.3	that when we get to our frivolity. Bobby, episode 50. Halfway there. It's remarkable.
0:38.8	Are we going to stop at 100?
0:41.7	Or do you think there might still be national security law issues at that point?
0:42.6	If we're still here.
0:43.5	If we're still here.
0:55.1	You know, I mean, given what H.R. McMaster's been saying in the last couple days about war with North Korea, if we're still here for episode 100, I'm optimistic. But, you know, like the Super Bowl, the Roman numerals are getting more and more complicated.
0:57.2	That's an interesting question we should talk about later.
0:59.7	Should they get rid of their numbering system for the Super Bowl?
1:01.3	Or should they just get rid of the NFL?
1:06.1	Well, I mean, listen, this is not going to surprise anyone who's heard me talk about football before. The day that we find a verifiable test for CTE, chronic traumatic traumatic, and celepathy, and so, I, you know, right, the day that we find a way to test for that and people who are alive, football's done.
1:20.4	I think that, that's an interesting possibility, but it's not just football if you're, if you're able to apply that test, that could be damaging.
1:26.8	For many sports, I think, though, you're just upset about the new york giants well there there's more than
1:32.1	nothing to that i mean it is true that that my professional and indeed my college football teams have
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