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Hello and welcome to Brian Moore's full contact in association with the Telegraph.

I'm Brian Moore and joining the show today to discuss the penultimate round

of the NatWest Six Nations are Ireland's Paul Wallace, Scotland Scott Hastings and Wales Rupert Moon.

The England's women coach Simon Middleton will reflect on the Red Roses 1-point defeat to France,

plus Nigel Owens will take us through rugby's laws.

First, I'm joined here in the studio by former England and Lions Fly Half.

Rob Andrew, hello Rob.

Hi, Brian.

Well, first of all, let's congratulate Ireland.

Outstanding tournaments so far, and they moved to second in the world.

We'll be going through what went wrong with England and all sorts of other things as we go through this show. First of all, bear in mind, England gave away yet again a rash of penalties. I think it was 15 this time. But half of those at least came from when they had the ball.

And you saw this writ large.

It was interesting because I was saying to Paul O'Connell during the game.

He said the best way to approach a jackling player,

especially one who's big as Mattiobastro or Camero was very big as well.

He said you don't let them get in the jackling position.

As they're going down, you hit them, you target them and get them out of the way. He said, if you can't do that, you have got to have two people trying to leave them off the ball from both sides. He said, if you get two people, you've got a chance. But if, for example, like happened twice on Saturday

at least, the first player to react and go in as a clearing player is George Ford. Now, that's

not his fault. He's nearest. He has to do that. But he can only do so much. He's not going to

move someone who's as big as the two French players I've just mentioned.

If he has someone who's simultaneously hitting the player from the other side,

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