Episode 5, Utilitarianism (Part III)
The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast
Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane
4.8 • 612 Ratings
🗓️ 29 October 2016
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Bentham, Mill and banter… The file size is large, please be patient whilst the podcast buffers/downloads/measures the pleasure and pain it may cause. In this three-part special, we take an insightful and fun-filled look at Utilitarianism. Follow us on Twitter at www.twitter.com/thepanpsychist. Links to all the reading can be found at www.thepanpsychist.com/panpsycast. Part I. Bentham and Utilitarianism (start of EP1) Part II. John Stuart Mill and Utilitarianism (start of EP2), Part III. Preference Utilitarianism (EP2, 43:15), Part IV. Further discussion and analysis (start of EP3). The voices in this episode are owned by Jack Symes, Andrew Horton and Ollie Marley. Thank you again for all of your support.
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| 0:00.0 | Pan |
| 0:02.0 | Psychast |
| 0:04.1 | Part |
| 0:07.6 | Part 4. |
| 0:12.3 | Further discussion and analyses. |
| 0:14.7 | A quote from J.L. Mackey in ethics inventing right and wrong. |
| 0:17.9 | Known for its supposed faults rather than its many actual virtues. That's on youth for the terranism. What do we think? Do what we did last time and maybe give one each of our biggest criticisms, or do you want to start off with some? Are you starting with one? Yeah, let's start with some. We could do utilitarianism with the whole, because we've kind of done them individually if we went to. Yeah, let's just throw a bunch of stuff out there. Okay, well, I guess |
| 0:39.2 | my biggest criticism of utilitarianism |
| 0:41.6 | is I really don't like the idea |
| 0:43.7 | of the masses deciding |
| 0:45.3 | what makes the ultimate |
| 0:47.2 | happiness. I guess |
| 0:49.3 | you could use the example of |
| 0:50.7 | Brexit. Let's use something a bit more, kind of less, like, yeah. |
| 0:56.2 | Less, that's probably the most controversial. |
| 0:58.1 | Yeah, that's difficult. |
| 0:58.7 | Well, let's do something less controversial. |
| 1:00.3 | Yeah, so, for example, let's say there's a group and there have been many groups in |
| 1:05.6 | human history which have decided that for the better of their society, they should eradicate |
| 1:09.7 | a section of that society. Yeah, by removing that part of society, all of the problems in that society will go away. And everyone in that society, well, most people, because all you need is most, you don't need a massive majority, you just need a majority, agree. It will remove, you know, whether it's, you know, in a genocide or whatever, we'll get rid of that group. If you got a particular historical example, well, you can feel... There's loads. |
| 1:45.3 | I mean, you've got like, you know, the Nazi party, you've got even the stuff that Mao was doing in China. But yeah, I just, I find that really hard to get my head around. I just, just because the most people think it makes them happy doesn't make, |
| 1:47.2 | that doesn't mean it's true. |
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