Episode 5: DOs and DON’Ts
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Canadaland
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 2 July 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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"I think this podcast is a bad idea."
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| 0:32.6 | gigabytes of free data. Okay. So what is quote unquote old vice? I mean, it was the days when, you know, |
| 0:40.5 | Gavin McGuinness was still there, when they would do horrible things to their interns and everything |
| 0:45.0 | was, you know, ironic joke and that nothing meant anything. And nihilism was the official |
| 0:49.6 | editorial policy of the magazine. That's Justin Ling, a reporter who worked at Vice Canada with |
| 0:55.7 | Slava Pastikoff and who still freelances for them. Full disclosure, he was also a host for |
| 1:01.8 | Canada Land, the company that makes this podcast. He's agreed to talk with us about his time at Vice |
| 1:07.9 | because Vice itself and its staff won't talk about the story. |
| 1:11.7 | And he feels like someone has to defend them from what he sees as our misguided journalism. |
| 1:17.3 | I think this podcast is unbelievably stupid. Apologies to the people sitting in front me, |
| 1:21.6 | but I think this podcast is a bad idea. |
| 1:23.8 | According to Justin, Vice gets a bad rap because of its early reputation, a reputation it has since totally outgrown. |
| 1:31.3 | I know there's all of the stories of yesteryear advice, and I heard a lot of them. |
| 1:35.9 | That was late 90s, early 2000s, the magazine and the outlet went through a thousand different reinventions. |
| 1:41.3 | When I joined, it was a company that was no longer built for hipster skateboarders, |
| 1:47.8 | but was suddenly pivoting towards long-form documentaries, thoughtful reporting, cultural investigations, |
| 1:54.4 | looking at the effects of the drug war, talking about issues that don't get platformed elsewhere. |
| 2:01.5 | By the time Justin left Weiss, he says it was pretty much like any other media company. |
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