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Episode 5: Bad Grandpa

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Naomi Channell

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime, News

4.7631 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In the 1990s, more survivors who had escaped the Children of God started appearing on television around the world, sharing their stories. And it wasn't just the media the survivors were talking to... it was also the authorities. In this episode we meet Hope Bastine, a survivor of the cult and one of the first people to get a successful conviction against one of her abusers, here in the UK. This is Bad Grandpa. WARNING: This series contains descriptions of abuse against minors, sexual abuse, suicide and murder. Whilst the descriptions are not explicit, please take extra care whilst listening. To find out more about Hope's work, you can view more information here - her book will be released on the 5th of February 2026: https://hopebastine.com/ Kristina, Celeste and Juliana's book can be found here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Not-Without-My-Sister-violated/dp/0007248075 You can support the Safe Passage Foundation here: https://www.safepassagefoundation.org/ If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this podcast, please see the organisations below who can help and support you: https://www.mind.org.uk/ - Mental health support https://www.spuk.org.uk/ - Suicide Prevention UK https://www.samaritans.org/ - The Samaritans https://www.thesurvivorstrust.org/ - For people who have been the victim of sexual abuse (UK) https://www.rainn.org/ - Sexual Abuse Support USA https://988lifeline.org/ - Suicide Prevention USA https://www.nasasv.org.au/support-directory - Sexual Abuse Support Australia https://www.suicidepreventionaust.org/ - Suicide Prevention Australia https://www.rcni.ie/useful-links/ - Sexual Abuse Support Ireland https://www.pieta.ie/ - Suicide Prevention Ireland https://www.thefamilysurvivaltrust.org/ - Support for cult survivors (UK) https://www.peopleleavecults.com/services/support-groups - Support for cult survivors & Intervention (global) If you'd like to support the podcast, you can do so here, thank you: buymeacoffee.com/podcast4justice Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Warning, this is a true crime podcast and is not suitable for all audiences.

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Please use discretion.

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This series contains descriptions of sexual assault against minors, murder and suicide.

1:15.5

Whilst the descriptions are not explicit, please take extra care whilst listening.

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This is part five of a six-part series. If you haven't listened to the first episodes, please go back

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to the beginning so you can follow along. The children of God were also known as the family

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