Episode 492: After School Satan Clubs, MLK Day, & Disturbing Bible Stories with Esau McCaulley & David T. Lamb

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Phil Vischer

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🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

To commemorate MLK Day, Phil asks Esau McCaulley if we’re making progress on race or if we’ve gone backwards in the last few years. His answer might surprise you. Skye then interviews Old Testament professor, David T. Lamb, about the updated version of his book, “God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” Lamb argues that if read correctly, we’d discover the Old Testament is surprisingly progressive rather than barbaric. Also this week, controversy erupts as after school Satan clubs sponsored by The Satanic Temple pop up in elementary schools with Good News clubs. And, a country music star withdraws his support from a Christian school that teaches racism is a reality. Plus, scientists discover sea slugs have an interesting party trick.

News Segment
0:00 - Start
2:41 - News of the Butt
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/this-sea-slug-can-chop-off-its-head-and-grow-an-entire-new-body-twice1/

14:25 - After School Satan Club
https://www.ourquadcities.com/news/local-news/debate-continues-over-satanic-club-set-to-meet-thursday-at-qc-elementary-school/

22:19 - John Rich angry about school materials discussing racism
https://www.nashvillescene.com/news/pithinthewind/john-rich-is-angry-about-lipscomb-academys-dean-of-intercultural-development/article_d0e7797a-9a3c-5f86-8e8c-fba6dba38951.html

Interview with Esau McCaulley
Website: https://esaumccaulley.com
“Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope” - https://amzn.to/3FA3H7m

35:05 - Interview Start
36:14 - Reflecting on the last 18 months
41:51 - Where the white evangelical church is now
51:04 - Being part of the solution

Sponsor
1:00:16 - Faithful Counseling
Thanks to Faithful Counseling for sponsoring this episode: faithfulcounseling.com/holypost

Announcement
1:01:29 - Livestream with Josh Packard: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

Interview with David T. Lamb
Website: https://davidtlamb.com/
“God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” (Expanded Edition) - https://amzn.to/3GH5s49

1:02:52 - Intro/Interview start
1:04:37 - Understanding the Old Testament as progressive
1:15:49 - The issue of collective justice
BONUS INTERVIEW (Polygamy in the Old Testament): https://www.patreon.com/posts/61346792/

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode 492. This week, should we be worried about afterschool Satan clubs and elementary
0:06.4	schools? And why is a country music star withholding financial support from his kid's private Christian
0:11.6	prep school? Then Phil talks to Esau McCauley about Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Are we making
0:17.6	progress on race in America? Or have we actually gone backward since George Floyd's murder?
0:22.8	And then I interview David Lamb about the re-release of his book, God Behaving Badly,
0:27.6	Is the God of the Old Testament angry, sexist, and racist? All of that plus scientists discover
0:33.0	sea slugs have a very useful party trick. Here's episode 492. Hey, that welcome back to the Holy
0:38.9	Post podcast. This is Phil Vissier. I am here with Christian Taylor. Hi, Christian. Hey, Phil.
0:46.0	How are you? Good. How are you? Good. Still fixing up your house, I see. Still working on it.
0:52.1	But it's almost done any day now. Nothing gets shipped, you know. As soon as you think you're done,
0:58.5	it's another three months before it'll arrive on a sumboat somewhere. Yeah, some boat somewhere.
1:04.8	And Skyghtunny. Hi, Sky. Hello. How's the death star?
1:11.9	Seriously, you need to get over that. It does not look like the death star. Can I just say,
1:16.0	I'm with Dylan this one because it looks so different and I can't get used to it every time you come
1:22.4	on, it makes me freak out. I know. And I keep saying it's not black, it's dark blue. And if you're
1:27.9	in the room, it feels much warmer than it shows up on camera. But Darth Vader said that to me once
1:33.6	too. And it didn't work coming from him either. And Jason, hi, Jason. How's going? Good, are you?
1:39.3	Good. How far do you walk today? I haven't walked again today. I just, I'm going more like when
1:46.2	the sun's up and it's like the warmest it's going to get. I used to do it in the morning during
1:50.3	summer. It was cold. But now, yeah, I'm waiting till the afternoon to do it. Yeah, okay. Okay,
1:56.7	this is the afternoon, you know. Well, yeah, we were doing this though. Kind of ruined everything.
2:01.2	So after after this, you're going to go to your walk right after this. That's my block. All the way,
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