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Fair Game

Episode 49: Katherine and Julian Wain

Fair Game

Leah Remini & Mike Rinder

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.89.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2021

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Leah and Mike talk to two members of Leah's family who disconnected after she left scientology and have now reconnected. It's an up close and personal look at scientology disconnection and "ethics."

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0:00.0

Welcome to another Scientology Bear Game The Podcast. Mike I'm getting over being a little

0:09.2

sicky. I know. You sound better though. I'll tell you, you know, like you make it through.

0:17.2

Like I've had people in my family members have COVID and like never got it and then as

0:23.7

soon as the world opened up, I got a cold. Anyway, better that than COVID. Truth. So today we have

0:34.5

some very special guests to me, their family and we posted about this amazing coming together,

0:44.8

but we didn't tell the story. So I want to welcome Catherine and Julian Wayne to the show. Hello,

0:51.3

guys. Hi. Hi. So Mike, you know, Catherine, but you've actually never met Catherine, which is

1:00.0

right. Right. Right. Because you know, when we were in Scientology, nobody really gave a

1:05.2

shit about family, but Catherine is my, well, was my sister-in-law ex-husband is William, who is now

1:13.6

legally or adopted brother. I hope I've told that story because that's going to be weird

1:18.4

for everybody to hear for the first time. But when we left Scientology, so I've known Catherine

1:27.8

most of her life, her sister Melinda Brownstone was my closest friend in Scientology and Melinda

1:36.8

was very controlling. She controlled my life and I was her boss at one point,

1:44.4

she controlled her sister Catherine's life, tried to destroy her sister Catherine's life when she

1:50.1

met Julian and married Julian and got me involved. We're trying to destroy their relationship.

1:54.9

When we were in Scientology, it's a really horrible, horrible story. But Catherine, when we left

2:04.2

Scientology, we let Catherine know what was happening and Catherine, you decided to stay with Scientology.

2:12.2

And so, just connected from me, Shannon, Sophia, my daughter, who you were, you know, and are her aunt.

2:22.8

And Julian's whole family, Julian was raised in Scientology. He was, went to Delphi,

2:30.0

Scientology School. They were both on staff. They both dedicated their lives to Scientology.

2:36.4

And so, I don't know if we want to start there. If we want to start with the emails, when we

2:41.8

told you we were leaving, I mean, would that be an interesting place to start, Mike, do you think?

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