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Episode 486: Vauhini Vara

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Education, Arts, Books, News

4.71.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Vauhini Vara is a contributing writer at Wired and author of the novel The Immortal King Rao. “With a magazine story, it might be like six months or a year or two, if it's something that took you a long time. With this [novel], it was 13 years for me, but the sort of emotional arc felt similar, where there were these periods of despair and a sense that like, this wasn't going anywhere, and then these periods where like, I'm a genius and this is going to be the best book ever written. You go back and forth, as we do with our journalism. But then with every draft of it, I always felt like, all right, this is better than the last draft at least. I don't know what the next one is going to look like, but this is definitely an improvement. And I feel like that's what kept me feeling like I was at least moving in the right direction.” Show notes: @vauhinivara vauhinivara.com Vara on Longform 01:00 "Bee-Brained" (Harper's • May 2017) 11:00 "Special Counsel" (California Sunday • Jun 2015) 30:00 "New Workers of the World" (Bloomberg Businessweek • Jul 2017) 32:00 "Can This Startup Break Big Tech’s Hold on A.I.?" (Fortune • Jun 2018) 32:00 "Fast, Cheap, and Out of Control: Inside Shein’s Sudden Rise" (Wired • May 2022) 37:00 "Ghosts" (The Believer • Aug 2021) 37:00 "The Political Awakening of Silicon Valley" (California Sunday • Sep 2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for this podcast comes from Amazon Prime.

0:06.1

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0:20.9

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Don't miss out on two days of big savings.

0:26.4

On Prime now, just in time for Prime Big Deal days, happening October 10th and 11th.

0:31.8

Learn more at Amazon.com slash Prime Big Deal days.

0:48.9

Hello and welcome to the long-form podcast.

0:51.3

I'm Evan Ratliffe, one of your co-hosts, Max Lonsky and Aaron Lammer are the other two.

0:56.7

Hey, hey guys, Evan, who is on the program?

1:00.2

This week, my guest was Wahini Vara, who is a long-form journalist and editor as well.

1:08.3

She was reported at the Wall Street Journal.

1:10.2

She's been an editor at the New Yorker.

1:12.4

Now she contributes to places like Wired of the New York Times Magazine.

1:15.4

In fact, she has a big story out this week in Wired, which we discussed,

1:19.9

which is about a kind of mysterious but enormous, fast fashion company that sells clothes

1:25.4

incredibly cheaply online.

1:27.3

And it also happens that her debut novel is out this week.

1:31.3

It's called The Immortal King Row.

1:33.4

Regular listeners will know that we don't often talk fiction on the show,

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