Episode 485 - AI Talk with Kevin Roose

Probably Science

Andy Wood, Matt Kirshen

Jessecase, Comedy, News, Mattkirshen, Standup, Andywood, Science & Medicine, Science, Brookswheelan

4.8 • 707 Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

New York Times technology columnist and host of the Hard Fork podcast Kevin Roose (@kevinroose) joins Andy, Jesse and Matt to talk about his infamous, amorous encounter with Bing Chat/Sydney, Sydney's response to his story, getting backhanded compliments from John Oliver, how ChatGPT was dismissed by its own creators, generative AI and the future of deepfakes, AI's capability overhang, explaining LLMs' weirdness with the Waluigi effect, artists' lawsuits over training AI on their creations, whether we care how art is made, which jobs could soon be on the chopping block and Futureproof, Kevin's handbook for the weird times ahead.

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0:00.0	Probably Science
0:02.0	Hello and welcome to Probably Science.
0:12.0	I'm Matt Kirshard.
0:14.0	And I'm Jesse Case.
0:16.0	If only there was some way to avoid any of us having to talk or interact.
0:20.0	Great. If only there was some kind of
0:22.1	technology solution that would get us all out of this problem. Man, I feel like if our listeners
0:28.4	have been annoyed by my obsession with this topic for the last three months, buckle up everybody.
0:33.7	Because we landed, we landed a whale. We landed, I would say our first guest who has had the distinction of kind of having been the main character of the internet.
0:43.4	I'm not sure is that accurate.
0:45.1	Could we say that, Kevin?
0:46.6	Two weeks ago.
0:48.3	Yeah.
0:48.9	To whatever extent the concept of a main character still exists.
0:52.4	I at least had a turn as if not a main
0:55.4	character, then at least a dominant cameo. Yeah. Yeah. Not in a bad way as it usually is. But that is
1:02.2	the voice of technology columnist for New York Times and co-host of the excellent hard fork podcast. Kevin
1:07.5	Ruse. Kevin, thank you for joining us. Thanks much for having me. Yeah, I'd say more you were the main character by proxy.
1:14.9	I was the love interest to the main character. You were the main character in law.
1:23.1	You're not you're not that bean dad, are you? I don't know.
1:28.3	I'm coming in, I'm coming in very unaware here.
1:31.0	His dad is.
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