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I'm excited to be having a conversation with someone when they have that revelation.

It's making sure pretty huge.

You can be good if you have a source for it?

Yeah, the telegraph.

From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is the New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.

Generations of guitarists have been obsessed with the work of the late John Fahey,

and later this hour we'll learn why.

And we're going to learn a thing or two about what feminists call the male gaze, too.

My colleague Judith Thurman visits the Muslim designer of some beautiful high-fashioned hijabs to talk about what it means to dress modestly in our culture. And I'm going to talk

with Jill Soloway, one of the most influential directors and most committed feminists working in TV

right now. Soloway's show Transparent debuted in 2014, starring Jeffrey Tambor as a person transitioning

rather late in life to a new identity as a woman. I think it's already joined the small list of

TV shows like All in the Family that capture an issue everybody's talking about and make it

more real through fiction.

Salloway's just released a pilot for a new show on Amazon that debuted last month, and if anything, it's even more provocative, and we'll get to that in a minute.

Jill, Transparent is a phenomenon, and it's brought something new into our lives, but through

an old means using comedy,

family comedy, and poking at the narcissism of families. But politically, it's bringing something

completely new, which is the life of a trans person who's making a transition from male to female.

I wish I could start, I wish we could start by talking about the environment into which this show came, the media representation of trans people, how you saw it and what you set out to do.

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