Episode 48: Ethan Watters On The Latest Skirmish In The Never-Ending Memory Wars

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Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

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🗓️ 23 January 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Katie and Jesse bring on Ethan Watters, an author and freelance journalist who helped debunk the recovered-memory craze back in the 1990s, to discuss the most recent development in that area: an article in The Cut that Watters does not think does a good and accurate job relating the (scant) scientific evidence for recovered memories. The hosts and Watters also discuss certain arguable therapeutic parallels between the recovered-memory movement and treatment for youth gender dysphoria, as well as the general tendency of liberals to violate their "We <3 Science" stance fairly regulary when moral outrage is afoot.

Show notes/Links:

The Cut article in question: https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html

And the podcast: https://www.thecut.com/2021/01/the-cut-podcast-the-truth-about-false-memories.html

Ethan's books:

Making Monsters: False Memories, Psychotherapy, And Sexual Hysteria: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Monsters-Memories-Psychotherapy-Hysteria/dp/0520205839

Crazy Like Us: The Globalization of the American Psyche:

https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Crazy-Like-Us/Ethan-Watters/9781416587095

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0:00.0	I'm good, how are you?
0:07.0	Oh, you know, pretty good.
0:08.0	Just a new dawn, new day in America.
0:09.9	I've been thinking about in an alternate world what I would do if I were the president
0:15.6	in the first 100 days.
0:17.6	This idea terrifies me, but go ahead.
0:19.6	Here's what I'm saying.
0:21.0	Number one priority.
0:22.2	Give every person in America a podcast.
0:25.2	That'll take care of our financial crisis.
0:27.5	Give every person a podcast.
0:30.3	This will be like like why are our Germany hyperinflation, but with podcasts?
0:35.9	Exactly like this.
0:37.8	Number two, update the Star Spangled Banner.
0:41.5	I think they need to add a little ethnic flare, maybe some bongo drums.
0:45.4	A little more reflective of the American people.
0:47.3	That's your understanding of, of quote, ethnic flare is bongo drums.
0:52.2	That's not offensive.
0:53.2	Yeah, like white people would dreadlocks on bongo drums.
0:55.6	That's multiculturalism in America.
0:57.6	And number three, my number one priority as president Katie Hursak would be appointing
1:03.7	a task force to work on the longevity of canons.
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