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Human Performance Outliers Podcast with Zach Bitter

Episode 474: 3:58 Mile to Ultra | Everett Smulders

Human Performance Outliers Podcast with Zach Bitter

Zach Bitter

Fitness, Sports, Running, Health & Fitness

4.8622 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 134 minutes

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Summary

Everett Smulders is an American distance runner, coach, and entrepreneur. He became an NCAA All-American and achieved a personal best of 3:58.93 in the indoor mile (2021), going sub-4:00, along with strong marks like 1:48.31 in the 800m and 3:42.86 in the 1500m. After college, he transitioned into ultra running and endurance events. He is the founder and CEO of WesFly Athletics (or WesFly Training Systems), a running media and coaching brand.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I just made my thing that I was going to outwork everyone else and have a higher pain tolerance,

0:04.7

like a pre-fontaine kind of mindset.

0:08.6

So when I graduated college, I just went and did a solo 100-mile run in my backyard, basically.

0:15.4

I did a 10-mile loop 10 times.

0:18.4

That was like by far the hardest thing I'd ever done. I said I'm never freaking

0:23.2

doing that again and then a week later I'm finding the next race. I couldn't quite push myself to go

0:30.0

corporate just because I knew it would kill my soul and I know what that kind of trajectory looks

0:35.5

like nothing wrong with that but I would rather make less money and coach high schoolers and

0:39.3

cross-country.

0:40.4

I don't think long distance running, we were talking about health and longevity this morning.

0:44.2

I actually don't think it's the healthiest thing at all.

0:47.7

I think taking anything to its performance conclusion is going to come at health tradeoffs.

0:57.1

Thanks for tuning into this episode of the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Zach Bitter.

1:03.9

I want to thank all my listeners for taking the time to check out my podcast.

1:08.4

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1:11.8

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1:18.0

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1:23.1

check out my coaching services or access additional podcast resources, including joining the show's

1:28.5

Patreon page, please head over to Zachbitter.com or send me an email at HPO podcast at

1:35.8

gmail.com. A big thanks to Element Electrolites, Delta G ketones, ProBio, ProBend,

1:42.0

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