Consider a very powerful message from our 16th president, Abraham Lincoln.

Our next guest, historian John Meacham, picked this quote for us from Lincoln's annual address to Congress back in 1862.

Quote, fellow citizens, we cannot escape history.

We of this Congress and this administration will be remembered in spite of ourselves.

The fiery trial through which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor to the latest generation.

Lincoln gave that address one month before he signed the Emancipation Proclamation.

Operating more like the head of a banana republic than the leader of so-called big business party.

Earlier today, in an extraordinary intervention into a private sector company,

Donald Trump demanded that the CEO of the company Intel resign over his personal investments in China,

writing, quote,

the CEO of Intel is highly conflicted and must resign immediately.

There is no other solution to this problem.

Thank you for your attention to this problem.

But I wanted you to join us tonight and think about President Trump's first 200 days

because that's where we are tonight. And I want you to think about President Trump's first 200 days because that's where we are tonight.

And I want you to think about Abraham Lincoln, someone who I know you have studied, written about,

and consider to be one of our greatest presidents.

What made you pick that particular quote, those words?

Because Lincoln puts us, us on the spot.

People like me spend a lot of time understandably describing, studying, articulating,

trying to find something new to say about the great leaders of the past.

But what Lincoln understood and what I think all of us have

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