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You are not alone.

You have found other people.

You and I have a friend in common.

Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done.

I think it's really beautiful.

Jake, stated what I struggle, you know?

It was incredible. You know, it's like your head exploded, seeing what was really there. And now here's your host, Brad Listy. Just one person. Everybody, this is Brad Listy. Welcome to the Other People podcast. It's good to be with you. I'm in Los Angeles, California. My guest today, for the third time time is Amelia Gray. She has a new novel out called Isadora, available in a beautiful hardcover edition from Farrar Strauss and Giroux. Amelia Gray coming up momentarily. It has been a very sad few days here at the Other People podcast. For those of you who follow me on Twitter,

you're aware of the fact that my dog Walter died on Friday, May 19th,

unexpectedly, very suddenly, after choking on a bagel.

He was in the kitchen, and I wasn't there, but I guess my son, you know, was eating a bagel,

threw part of it on the floor.

The dog got it, gobbled it down, it got caught in his throat.

I was upstairs. I heard throat. I was upstairs.

I heard shouting.

I was told that the dog was choking.

I ran downstairs.

The dog was choking.

My wife was trying to give him the Heimlich maneuver.

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