Well hello and welcome to another episode of Scientology Fair Game. Hello Mikey.

Hello Leely. How are you today?

I'm eating a bagel and cream cheese, so I actually I'm pretty happy right now.

I know. I want some, but I'm on the wrong side of the country to be able to walk in the

wrong side of the country. This is very confusing. Oh really? Because you know about bagels

where you are to highly doubtful, my friend. But that's what you know about bagels.

Lies. Okay. All right. Listen, well, before we get into our next guest, we're going to start a

series of new episodes we call Deep Dives. And these are, we're going to go into specific

parts of Scientology. And we thought the best place to begin is what the man himself,

the big lie. L run. Yeah. And we're going to, we're going to go into a bit of his life.

And some of the lies because if we were to do all of L run, Harvard's lies,

we, this would be a never ending podcast. And so we're going to start. Let's introduce our

guest, Mike. Yes. Yes. We've, we've elicited the assistance of perhaps the most well.

What's the right word? Study knowledgeable person to talk about the subject of the lies of

L run, Hubbard. And that is our good friend, John A.Tac, who becomes actually the first

guest that we have had a returning champion. Right. He's the first one that we've had back.

We had Chris Cholten do two episodes. But John is the first one who's come back for another

episode. And he is uniquely positioned to talk about this because he wrote a book that's

called Let's Sell These People A Piece of Blue Sky that was the sort of first book of exposing

the truth about L run, Hubbard. And actually was the foundation for what then subsequently

became Russell Miller's unauthorized biography, Bearface Messiah. Anyway, with all that said,

welcome, John. It's lovely to have you back. It's great to be back. Thank you.

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