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Just one person at just one time All right everybody here everybody, here we go again. This is it. This is other people. Welcome to the program. Welcome to the podcast. The Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy. I'm sitting here in Los Angeles. It's good to be with you. Thank you for listening. Tom McAllister is my guest today. His novel, The Young Widowers Handbook,

is available from Algonquin Books. It's the official January pick of the Nervous Breakdown

Book Club, and it's a terrific novel. Tom McAllister and I are going to be in conversation

in just a moment. Before I get started, I want to say a few words about, uh, about, um, a poet named Mark Bomber.

Many of you listening may be aware of him or know him.

He was, uh, killed this past week, uh, very tragically while walking across the country barefooted to raise awareness for climate change.

Uh, uh, across the country barefooted to raise awareness for climate change. You know, I don't, I didn't know him.

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