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Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast

Episode 45 - John Walker Lindh, The American Taliban

Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast

Lions Led By Donkeys

Comedy

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2019

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

Joe and Nick talk about how a sickly kid who liked to pass his time trolling people on the internet ended up traveling across the world and joining the Taliban and his court case that followed. Follow us @lions_by Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/lionsledbydonkeys Get some merchandise: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/lions-led-by-donkeys-store sources: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/my-letters-john-walker-lindh-american-jidahist/590071/ https://www.npr.org/2019/05/23/725865999/john-walker-lindh-the-american-taliban-set-to-be-released https://www.dcbar.org/bar-resources/publications/washington-lawyer/articles/may-2005-taking-the-stand.cfm

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0:00.0

Americans got to hear from the 20-year-old Taliban fighter in an interview conducted the first week in December.

0:06.0

He'd recently surrendered after a prison uprising and was interviewed by author Robert Pelton.

0:12.0

Mr. Pelton.

0:13.0

Mr. Pelton, good morning.

0:14.6

Good morning.

0:15.6

When you first came in contact with John Walker, what shape was he in?

0:19.8

What condition was he in?

0:21.8

Well, he was in pretty bad shape. There were 18 fighters that had been pulled out of the prison that were seriously wounded and when I opened the door to the hospital the stench of sort of just people that have been in the basement for seven days with

0:34.4

dead bodies was pretty overpowering. He had been bombed they had put water in the

0:38.6

basement of that prison they had gassed the prison were you surprised that American was so willing to endure such hardship

0:46.2

in a fight against other Americans?

0:48.0

Yeah, I think I was.

0:50.3

I've been with another American in a jihad in Chechn chestnut but I was surprised to see what

0:54.3

Walker had gone through. There were a number of people who had died in the bunker and he was

0:59.5

one of 86 people left. Let me play you a small, very small portion of your interview with him and ask you about it on the other

1:06.4

end.

1:07.4

Was your goal to be Shaheid or martyr?

1:11.4

Yes, the goal of every Muslim.

1:14.0

Is this the right cause or the...

1:17.0

Yes, exactly what I thought of me.

1:19.0

I mean, it was a good cause.

1:21.0

Definitely. It's a little difficult to understand.

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