Episode 45: 48 hours in Syria, with David Horovitz
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Haviv Rettig Gur
4.9 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 30 September 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Earlier this month, Times of Israel editor David Horovitz became one of only two or three Israeli journalists to have ever walked the streets of Damascus, Syria’s capital.
But he was the very first to be welcomed there with open arms by the Syrian government. His visit with a group of American Jews led by Michigan Rabbi Asher Lopatin was part of the new regime’s efforts to show a new openness to the world.
I asked David what he heard from senior government officials, what he saw among the National Museum’s carefully preserved millennia-old Jewish relics, and what he made of this purportedly new Syria under President a-Sharaa.
His travelogue of the visit, which included some marvelous photos, can be read here: https://www.timesofisrael.com/48-surreal-hours-in-damascus-an-israeli-reporters-travelogue-from-an-enemy-capital/
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everybody. Welcome to Ask Chaviv Anything. Today is going to be a very special and unique episode |
| 0:10.5 | because I have here my boss and mentor in journalism. I don't think he likes me saying this, but in fact, |
| 0:19.0 | somebody I worked for for 17 of the last |
| 0:22.0 | 19 years, roughly, and under whose tutelage I honed my journalistic craft. |
| 0:27.0 | So if you've ever seen me do anything bad in journalism or don't like my journalism, |
| 0:31.5 | he's the reason. |
| 0:33.9 | David Horvitz is here, and he agreed to come on to talk about an absolutely extraordinary visit |
| 0:39.1 | that he paid to the capital of the new Syria. Whatever the heck that is, we've done several |
| 0:45.1 | episodes trying to figure that out, talking to a Drew's activist, talking to an analyst from the |
| 0:51.2 | UAE, and needless to say, there's a lot of complexity and mystery there. |
| 0:56.4 | It's not at all clear to me that the new leadership of Syria knows exactly what the new Syria |
| 1:00.6 | actually is. So we're going to dig into it with one of the very few Israeli journalists who has |
| 1:06.2 | literally been to Syria, to meet some of the new leadership, some of the members of the government, |
| 1:11.4 | and to look at the remains of the Jewish community, ancient and modern. |
| 1:16.5 | Let me just say, before we get into it, this episode is sponsored by the American Technion |
| 1:21.5 | Society with Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah degraded. What technologies will Israel need to defend itself in a new Middle East? |
| 1:31.1 | Every day, groundbreaking research from the Technion, Israel Institute of Technology, |
| 1:35.5 | is transformed into real-world defense tech that protects Israel and saves lives, |
| 1:40.5 | from Iron Dome to Iron Beam, just coming online in a serious way. From drones to satellites |
| 1:46.3 | and cybersecurity to supercomputers, fundamental science. Born in Technion Labs is brought to life |
| 1:51.8 | by visionary Technion alumni, serving in the IDF and the defense industries who give Israel its |
| 1:57.6 | qualitative edge. If you love Israel and want to keep it safe, to boost its economy, to strengthen its people, |
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