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Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done.

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This is other people.

This is the other people podcast. I'm Brad Listy. I'm in Los Angeles. Thank you for tuning in. It's good to be with you. I have a bit of a cold. I don't know if you can hear it. I'm a little bit under the weather. What's interesting is that, you know, just the other day, uh, we had a plumber here. It's like a long

story, but basically there was a gas leak. We had to turn off the gas. We had to have a plumber

come to test the lines before the gas company would turn the heat back on. It's this whole big

ordeal that lasted three days, which happened to be like the coldest days of the year in Los Angeles. So our house was freezing. The plumbers couldn't find the leak, and then they could find the leak, and then they couldn't find the leak. And the gas company kept coming and then going. And then, you know, it just, it was a saga that unfolded over three days, during which time our house was like something like a refrigerator, at least at night and in the early

morning. And at one point, the plumber, or one of the plumbers, we had multiple plumbers here,

but one of the plumbers was with me and we were standing in the bathroom together because he

was analyzing the plumbing in the bat. This isn't going well. But you know what I'm saying.

Like we were standing there talking and, uh, I said to him, yeah, it's really cold in here. I hope I don't get sick, you know, but I haven't gotten sick in a while. It's been a long time. And then I said to him, I said, I shouldn't have said that. and I don't even know if I knocked on wood, but I was like, I just jinx myself.

And sure enough, not, not like 24 hours later,

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