This is the Conciled Carry Podcast episode 440.

Welcome to the Consulcary Podcast. I'm your host today, Jacob Paulson, and I am joined by a recurring guest. I don't know,

Andrew, if you've graduated to co-host status, but you've been here a fair number of times.

And so I'm pleased to introduce once again, Andrew Branca. Well, thanks for having me back on,

Jacob. Happy to do it anytime. Absolutely. We're so excited to have you here and to discuss

a topic that I think requires having an expert like you here with us. Today's episode, we're really

going to dive into something that I think is, well, I don't know if gray area may not be the best

title, but we're calling today's episode the gray area when you can, oh, geez,

I already forgot what the title of the episode is. Okay, here it is. Sorry, guys. Today's episode,

the gray area when you can threaten or make threats of deadly force with a gun. And this is going to

be exciting because I think that

we often find ourselves in those situations, or we at least can imagine, theorize situations where

we might not feel that the use of deadly force is warranted, but perhaps the display of a gun

or the preparation for a potential use of deadly force might feel wise.

And the question is, well, is that legal?

And we're going to dive into that today.

First, our sponsors, today we have two sponsors.

First honorary sponsors, law of self-defense.

Andrew, I think you're familiar with that company.

Indeed, I've heard of them.

Yeah, yeah, I think you're associated with them. So Law of Self-Defense is Andrew's brand, and you can, of course, learn more at

law of self-defense.com, and that is one of our honorary sponsors today because we're so

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