Episode 43: Unseal this Podcast!

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8 • 646 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2017

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

It's been a busy week in national security law! In Episode 43, Professors Chesney and Vladeck take on: Mueller-Time: Indictments against Manafort and Gates, and an even-more important plea deal. ACLU v. Mattis and the government's filing in opposition to an order to show cause why ACLU should not get access to the US citizen held as an enemy combatant in Iraq. A new Benghazi case: United States v. Mustafa al-Imam, captured by US forces in Libya (with Libyan government permission/involvement) and now en route (slowly, presumably) back to US for civilian criminal prosecution. A quick note on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's hearing yesterday on AUMF issues (plus a related note on the federal statute -- 18 USC 130f -- that requires notification to the Senate and House Armed Services Committees when the military conducts (or supports a foreign partner on) a kill/capture mission outside a zone of active hostilities). The blow-up in the al Nashiri military commission, with the commission judge threatening contempt if the would-be-former defense attorneys do not show for a hearing on whether their ethical objections genuinely require withdrawal All that, plus slick baseballs undermining sliders at the World Series!

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0:00.0	Hello from Austin and welcome to the spooktacular episode 43 of the National Security Law podcast, brought to you by the University of Texas.
0:23.3	I'm Bobby Chesney using a weird Halloween radio voice. And I'm Steve Lottick. Bobby, don't be scared. It's just one indictment.
0:28.1	Oh, Halloween is terrifying. Well, no, this news cycle is terrifying. The news cycle is keeping us busy,
0:35.5	my friend. We have a lot to talk about. I mean, you could say it's full of candy, but only in the sense that it's like horrifying,
0:40.6	terrible candy that makes us sick and keeps us up late at night.
0:43.3	This is starting to sound like some sort of 1970s, you know, urban myth that's going around
0:47.9	about the poison candy in the neighborhood.
0:49.7	There's a lot of poison candy going around this Halloween.
0:51.8	There is. So, okay, I guess there's some, it's, let's be clear because there is actually quasi-breaking
0:58.4	news going on.
0:59.3	It's 1040 central daylight time on Halloween Tuesday, October 31st.
1:04.0	Bobby, we are some 27 hours post the Manafort news breaking.
1:10.1	Indictment Paloza.
1:11.3	Indictment Poloosa? I think some people called it like Muller Day.
1:15.0	Muller Day. Muller Time.
1:17.5	Muller time is probably the catchiest of these deals to keep with our 70s commercial theme.
1:22.4	So we've got that to talk about Steve, the indictment of Paul Manafort, Richard Gates,
1:26.5	and the plea deal with George Papadopoulos. We will talk about Steve, the indictment of Paul Manafort, Richard Gates, and the plea deal with
1:27.7	George Papadopoulos.
1:28.9	Yep.
1:29.5	We will talk about the latest developments with our ongoing, what is this like the seventh
1:34.5	week in a row?
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