Episode 43: Listener Favorite: Divorcing a Narcissist with Dr. Natalie Jones
The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast
Kate Anthony
4.4 • 575 Ratings
🗓️ 14 October 2019
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Dr. Natalie Jones is a licensed professional clinical counselor specializing in helping women overcome abusive relationships with narcissists. I really hate that this is so prevalent in my work, but it is. I also dislike that narcissism and narcissistic abuse take up so much time in my practice. However, they do and I am a true believer that understanding narcissism and how to navigate divorce and later, co-parenting with a narcissist is so very important. And so I have turned to an expert in this for a conversation about all things narcissism.
Dr. Jones and I cover many topics related to narcissism including the hallmark characteristics of a narcissist, setting healthy boundaries safely and effectively, and even the ever-puzzling question, "Why do we date or marry the same type of person over and over again?"
I'm excited to share our conversation with you.
Show Highlights
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The spectrum of narcissism and hallmark characteristics of a narcissist
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What it's like to be in a relationship with a narcissist, being "love bombed," and not stepping outside of the "bubble"
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How to set healthy boundaries safely and effectively with a narcissist
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Things to consider when it comes to safety and leaving
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How Dr. Jones suggests you approach leaving a partner when kids are involved
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How to go from being manipulated and controlled, to a person that has solid boundaries
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Addressing grief of the broken fantasy
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Why we date or marry the same type of person over and over again and how we can rewrite our relationship story
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Tools to help build up self-esteem, looking at inner dialogue, inner critic and inner child
Learn More About Dr. Jones:
Dr. Natalie Jones, PsyD., LPCC is an Licensed professional clinical counselor and a post doctoral intern. She currently has a private practice called Lifetime Counseling and Consulting in CA where she specializes in working with women who have been in emotionally and psychologically abusive relationships with narcissists, as well as with individuals who were previously incarcerated for various crimes. Dr. Jones has a podcast called A Date With Darkness Podcast, which specializes in providing education and tips from healing from narcissistic relationships. Dr. Jones received her masters in clinical counseling psychology from the Chicago School of Professional Psychology in Chicago, IL, and her doctorate in clinical psychology from the California School of Professional Psychology in San Francisco, CA. Dr. Jones has also written blogs for the Mind Journal and PsychCentral.
Links:
Dr. Jones website: https://www.drnataliejones.com
Dr. Jones' social media links
Dr. Jones on Instagram
A Date with Darkness Podcast Instagram
Dr. Jones on Facebook
A Date with Darkness Facebook Page
A Date with Darkness Facebook Group
Dr. Jones on Twitter
A Date with Darkness on Twitter
Resources:
The Ultimate Divorce Survival Guide
Should I Stay or Should I Go Facebook Group
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to another episode of the Divorce Survival Guide podcast, where we have real, honest, smart, |
| 0:11.6 | and sometimes even hilarious conversations about co-parenting, separation, and divorce, and all that goes along with that. |
| 0:18.9 | I'm Kate Anthony, your Divorce Survival Guide, certified life and relationship coach, |
| 0:23.7 | and happily divorced mom who helps women decide if they should stay in or leave their marriages |
| 0:28.0 | and then guides them through the process one step at a time. |
| 0:33.5 | Hey, everyone. |
| 0:35.7 | Welcome back. |
| 0:36.8 | I'm so glad you're here with me today. Today I'm actually going to do a |
| 0:40.5 | rebroadcast of one of the most downloaded podcasts I have ever done. And this is my conversation |
| 0:48.9 | with Dr. Natalie Jones on divorcing a narcissist. But before we rebroadcast that episode, I want to talk a little bit |
| 0:59.8 | about narcissism. I want to talk about the fact that narcissism has become a buzzword and a |
| 1:07.8 | catch-all term to describe someone whose behavior bothers us. |
| 1:13.7 | And I want to talk about the fact that this has become, I think, a little bit of a little |
| 1:20.5 | dangerous. |
| 1:22.3 | And I'll explain what I mean in a minute. |
| 1:24.7 | I mean, bottom line is someone needs to be diagnosed as a narcissist, |
| 1:29.3 | but it's not just unfair to the other person, right? It's actually unfair to you. So |
| 1:34.5 | let's talk about, let's talk about what a narcissist is, right? And again, with Dr. Jones, |
| 1:41.9 | we're going to get into this in this episode. But narcissism really, there's a range, right? It can range from someone who is, right? And again, with Dr. Jones, we're going to get into this in this episode. But narcissism really, |
| 1:45.9 | there's a range, right? It can range from someone who is self-involved to someone who outright |
| 1:52.1 | emotionally abuses us. And while there are definitely veritable narcissists among us, it's really important for your own growth and healing, |
| 2:03.4 | for us to distinguish what a narcissist is and how common they really are. Because if you were |
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