believe in the ripple effect.

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I'm

Avaughan What's up, what's up, another episode of Ripple Effect podcast. Of course, I'm your host

Pricada, friend. This also knows. It's an eight great episode for you today. Today we have

returning guests, somebody who's a regular on the Ripple Effect podcast and a regular on the

Union of Dunwanted. She's a researcher, thinker, philosopher, host of the very popular Mel Kaye show.

Of course, we have Mel Kay. And she's a fan favorite people love her. She's outspoken. She's strong.

She's fearless. And that's one of the reasons why we love her too. And she's always a blast to talk to.

And I don't think i've ever told this

story on a podcast before maybe i have but i remember during 2020 when we started doing the union

of done wanted and we started asking some of the same guests to come back on over and over again

and we kind of created a little bit of a community and a friendship.

And Mel might not know this.

And she might not even listen to the intro of this episode.

So she might never know if I'd never tell her.

But Mel and I had some conversations.

And I don't remember if it was on her show, my show, if it was not during

a show, if it was on the union of unwanted. But we had a conversation about what was going on in the

world, how much we needed one another in regards to the alternative media community, to stay sane,

to help each other figure out what's going on, to gather research, to just

also support one another because we were supporting many other people, the listeners, the people

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