Hey, you guys, before we get started, a quick reminder about the Other People app. This podcast has its own free app. The other people with Brad Listy app is available wherever you get your apps. It's free. It's the best and most elegant way to listen to this program. So you go get the app. It's free. You get it on your device. When you do that, the most recent 50 episodes will be there waiting for you free of charge the most recent 50 episodes

are always free you have the app on your device new episodes automatically upload to the app

you can download episodes to listen to while you're offline it's very user friendly and uh if you

want more than 50 if you want to get at the deep archives if you want access to every single episode

more than

400 and counting, anywhere you go at your fingertips, you just sign up for a premium

subscription.

Other people premium, you sign up right there within the app.

It's as cheap as 75 cents a month.

75 cents a month gets you access to everything, including my conversations with writers

like Hilton Al's, George Saunders, Tom Perada,

Eric Larson, Sheila Hetty, Roxanne Gay, Heidi Julevitz, Maggie Nelson, the list goes on, other people,

premium.

It's a great way to support the show.

The other people with Brad Listy app, it's free.

Did I say everything?

You are not alone.

You have found other people.

You and I have a friend in common.

Every stupid thing that a writer could do I've done.

I think it's really beautiful.

Jesus, they did it well.

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