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This Jungian Life Podcast

Episode 42 - Over Apologizing

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2019

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

What is “I’m sorry” as a habitual response really about? There’s the preemptive apology that is offered to forestall possible criticism, the apology that evokes reassurance from others, the apology for falling short of perfection…and more. This episode explores developmental, interpersonal, and intrapsychic dynamics of various kinds of habitual apologizing. We’ll be sorry if it falls short of your expectations.

 

The Dream:

I'm at a holiday "work party" for the very exclusive private school where I work, but it's in a big, old, rather shabby hotel that reminds me of a firehouse where my family used to have annual holiday gatherings. I'm mingling among all of the people and (as is true in my conscious life) can't seem to find a group with which I feel completely comfortable or myself. I feel like a lonely misfit in disguise,  feigning conformity and pleasant attitude.  I go upstairs to where the bathroom is supposed to be, and it feels very far away from the party--the second floor is creepily empty and quiet, with several large, empty rooms. I don't remember actually going into a bathroom, but as I'm about to go back downstairs to the party, I see an infant boy teetering at the top of the staircase on the landing. He is far too small to be walking. I immediately pick him up to save him, and he looks up at me, clearly distressed, and begins speaking as a much older child would. I ask him where his mother is, and he says he doesn't know, and is crying.

 

I don't remember all of what he says, but he tells me that he is in kindergarten. I hold him to my chest and he begins to calm down, eventually falling asleep. I feel affection for him and give him a kiss on the cheek, but I'm alarmed and unsure of what we will do. I go downstairs to the bartender of this party and ask where this boy's mother might be. He says, "probably in the party upstairs."  No one at the work party seems to notice or care that I have this lost baby. I go back upstairs, and as before, there is no one there--just an open door exposing a room with these creepy, industrial looking blue closet doors (almost like storage spaces) underneath a fluorescent light. I feel a deep sense that this situation is not right, and a strong determination to get myself and the baby out of there. The dream ends with me standing on the landing, baby still pressed against me.  

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:03.0

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marciano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee,

0:09.0

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day.

0:17.0

I'm Lisa Marciano and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia.

0:22.0

I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a youngian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

0:27.0

I'm Deborah Stewart, a youngian analyst on Cape Cod.

0:31.0

So in this episode we're going to be talking about compulsive apologizing, which rose out of a really

0:40.3

interesting conversation I had had recently with a friend of mine and was having a big dinner party and during the dinner party she had been inadvertently apologizing over and over again for imagined problems with the dinner.

0:58.1

So just as the entrees being served, immediately she found herself apologizing for, you know, the rice being

1:06.2

overcooked and perhaps some nuance of the spicing which wasn't correct and kind of confessing this

1:11.8

immediately.

1:12.8

And while this was happening,

1:14.2

she looked across the room and saw her daughter

1:17.8

rolling her eyes every time she would make these apologies,

1:22.4

which brought this flush of awareness to her,

1:25.6

that this was really pervasive, powerful behavior, and I think also brought to her awareness

1:31.2

that there might be some other way of thinking about this.

1:34.0

Can I just ask how old was the daughter? I think the daughter is in her early 20s.

1:38.9

Okay. As I was to say I have a teen daughter and she rolls her eyes at all the time.

1:43.0

There might be important signals and all of that.

1:48.0

But what it did is it initiated I, a really deep question,

1:54.2

which she had shared with me

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