Alright, welcome to episode 42 of The Bobby Caste.

Thanks to Blue Apron for sponsoring The Bobby Caste.

And with John Oates from Holland Oates.

Which by the way, you have a book called Change of Seasons.

I do.

And I want to get into the book in a second and why I like the book, how it's written,

and some stuff in the book.

But first, like I'm a fan of you guys.

I never knew until I read the book that you weren't really Holland Oates.

I never knew that.

And now I feel ridiculous because I've been saying it from my whole life.

Everybody says it.

Everybody, you know, come on.

You got to put, you got to put things in a convenient box.

But if you look on every album we've ever made, it says Darryl Hall and John Oates.

And we, we were very adamant about that.

And I know it seems kind of a silly thing to be a stickler about.

But you know what?

We, we always have seen ourselves as two guys who work together.

And we made a point of that.

And even though no one, everyone ignores us, it doesn't matter.

But it's a thing.

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