Christmas Day, I saw free ships come saving in on Christmas Day in the morning.

And what was in the ships all free on Christmas Day, on Christmas Day, and what was in the ships

of free from Christmas Day that morning?

Well, I'm absolutely delighted to have on the show today.

Someone I've known for many, many years, I've never spoken to him on the show before.

I think he's been on with Steve.

Robert Moynihan, the editor, longstanding editor, 40 years or so, of Inside the Vatican

magazine.

Bob, welcome back on to the show.

So you've been there, I think, longer than anyone else watching all these affairs in the Vatican.

I do have a question.

I'm going to come towards the end of our chat with you about your observations.

As such a long-standing observer, I just want to ask you what your reflections are on the way people are perceiving the

present pontificate. But before that, as it's Christmas, Christmas Eve today, we're obviously

focusing in an Advent way specifically focusing our expectations on the negativity of our Lord and

Savory Jesus Christ tomorrow.

But I wanted to ask you, if there's anything in the past year looking back on it, whether

you can say, I think this was the action of Jesus Christ in human events, both in the

public sphere.

And then also, if you wouldn't mind mind if there is anything in your own personal life. Well, I want to wish you and everyone,

blessed Christmas, Christmas Eve.

During this past year, it was pretty clear that our country was suffering under a type of strong delusion, which the media supported and many of our institutions supported, our universities, and the misunderstanding of the nature of man, the nature of sexuality, the nature of our identity.

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