He's an empty threat, and he can't credibly threaten jail time, right, for members of Congress,

for having been part of this investigation.

If that's something that he's going to threaten, but he's not going to be able to carry out.

But he is going to be able to carry out the other side of this threat, which is to set free all the people who committed crimes

and were convicted of crimes,

even including violence, on January 6th.

What do you think the effect of that will be on the country?

What does that do to us as a polity, as a democracy, as a country?

What does that do to us?

Trump is not a believer in the rule of law. We know that from all of his activities, and that you would pardon people who committed this violence,

who were either convicted or pled guilty of really violent acts, really undercuts the rule of law.

I mean, you know, clemency is for people who have earned it.

People, you know, we see people who have mended their ways.

Right now, we've got rioters in court saying that they don't care, you know, Trump is going to pardon them

anyhow. It's a really very destructive suggestion that we would pardon these criminals

and try and threaten people who aren't criminals, the January 6th committee members.

Donald Trump's pick for Secretary of Defense, Pete Heggsath last night, attempting to soften comments he has made about women's ability to fight on the front lines.

But he didn't. He just separated from it.

Hegsteth will be back on Capitol Hill today to meet with Republican senators.

He says he is meeting with Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska today and with Senator Susan Collins of Maine tomorrow.

It comes after he sat down for a second time yesterday with a key lawmaker.

Senator Joni Ernst of Iowa.

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