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We are here, Matt Roberts and Tony Grafia,

are here for the podcast of the Birds and the Bees.

And we've got, I cannot believe this, but our whiskey for this week, which our

Matt's assistant, Madeline found for us, is so cool. It is two gingers.

How awesome is that? I think some of you may suspect the meaning behind that well they've already seen the episodes so I'm sure they know exactly what we're talking about

Yes, and this is the birds and the bees written by myself and

Matt and I don't think we actually properly introduced our stuff my mom Matt

Robert's executive producer on Outlander and you're Tony Grafia, writer, executive producer.

Oh, right, sorry, writer, executive producer.

Yeah, we're both writers.

We wrote this episode, which is we were dying to write all season.

It was super exciting. It's called the birds and the bees and I have to read you the email chain because when we right before we started the podcast we were saying who came up with this title and we were kind of arguing about it and Matt said

that he came up with it and he said he challenged me to look up the email. So I

found it and and it's back from March 9th and Matt wrote maybe we title 409 the birds and the bees I said

O M G I actually kind of like that and he says there's something kind of dark about it plus there's actually

birds and bees and I wrote oh and the bird's nest with the baby's birds I think we have to do this and

he wrote back funny thing I almost added it to the

production draft and I wrote back I fucking love it and there you go folks that's how

we got the title that's how it happens the title. That's how it happens. The birds and the bees.

Obviously, this is one of the, you know, important episodes this season and a lot of anticipation.

It starts on a very sad note because last last week obviously Brianna suffered a very big trauma and this was a big change from the book that maybe Matt you can talk about how in the book it's played as a

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