Hey everyone, I'm Amid al-Yakber, and this is See Something Say Something.

There has been a lot of conversation about sexual abuse and abusive power from men pretty much everywhere.

And a lot of the conversations have been centered around how difficult it is to call these things out.

And our community is no different.

So this week, we're going to tackle that a little bit.

If you see something, you better, you better say something.

Nothing at all, nothing at all.

So first up, I'm going to talk to Hannah Alam here at BuzzFeed News, who has published this

really interesting piece of reporting about this scandal that has happened this past fall.

It centers Nomana Le Khan, who's a preacher in Texas, and allegations came to light in September

that he was behaving in ways with women, both people who work for him and his followers, in a way that was not appropriate.

There were a lot of women and a few men who publicized anonymous accounts from women who were the alleged victims, and they received a lot of harassment from the community

at large. So Hannah's piece really helped me understand the landscape and why this is such

a difficult and new thing for the Muslim community. So I thought I'd invite her on and talk about it.

Welcome to the show, Hannah. Hi. How are you doing? Good. Good. Thanks. There's a lot of conversations about sexual

assault and harassment happening in, you know, the broader world, but you have, through your writing,

you like did a lot of research into what's the lay of the land in the Muslim American community right now,

and I definitely learned a lot. And I think a lot of the land in the Muslim American community right now? And I definitely learned a lot.

And I think a lot of the underpinning premise that, like, unites these things is the idea of a, like,

sort of celebrity sheikh or, like, imam or leader. Like, they're not all sheikhs. So can you

explain this phenomenon

and how it lays the groundwork for these allegations

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