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Deep Cover

Episode 4: The Gentleman Smuggler

Deep Cover

Pushkin Industries

True Crime, History

4.33.8K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2020

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Shine takes Ned to Beaufort, North Carolina, where an abandoned boat full of marijuana had been discovered years prior. Locally, that case had gone cold, but Shine knows all about it. It was the work of an activist turned marijuana importer named Steven Kalish AKA Skip AKA the Gentleman Smuggler, a nickname earned because of his charismatic personality and distaste for violence.

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, host of Against the Rules at Pushkin.

0:12.3

And we're going to new book and my life has been all about last minute trips to the

0:15.9

Bahamas, court dates, financial regulations.

0:18.4

But right now I'm doing interviews on background.

0:21.9

These won't make it into the book, but they give context to my characters.

0:25.6

On Against the Rules, I'm inviting you to listen in.

0:28.0

That's a month on the record.

0:29.7

You might meet a cryptosmith, a white collar crime scholar, or a regulator of trade on the

0:34.6

blockchain.

0:35.6

Listen to Against the Rules wherever you get your podcasts.

0:43.6

Previously on Deep Cover.

0:46.5

Ned Dimonds was finally getting somewhere.

0:49.1

His big breakthrough came in the spring of 1985 when Clinton shined Andersen flipped.

0:55.1

Ned was in charge of vetting everyone in the smuggling network.

0:59.2

I know it was a massive operation and I knew that we had the key to the safety deposit

1:06.2

box to open it all up.

1:09.3

Shine pointed Ned to a spot on the North Carolina coast where he said his bosses had smuggled

1:14.6

marijuana into the country.

1:16.6

So Ned picked up the phone and called the FBI down in Wilmington, North Carolina.

1:21.8

Next to them, they have any intel on drug smugglers who are using shrimp boats.

1:25.9

They tell him, yeah, actually.

1:27.9

We had this one case in particular involving an abandoned drug boat, a ghost ship.

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